Probus - Silvered Billon Antoninianus

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  1. Topcat7

    Topcat7 Still Learning

    I have many silvered Antoninianus' of Probus, but I like this recent acquisition as it is the first where most of the silvering is intact and there is a clear, well centered strike.

    Probus
    , Silvered Antoninianus, Period II, Sixth Emission, Officina 4.
    Ae24.2mm., 3.90gm.
    Obv: IMP C PROBVS PF AVG, Radiate, cuirassed, bust right.
    Rev: VIRTVS AVG, Virtus standing left, holding Victory and spear, left hand on shield.
    In exe. IIII.
    Mint Lugdunum
    RIC Vii. 112
    Provenance: Ex Artancient Ltd, Ex Seaby U.K. (17th October, 1956)
    Probus Ex Seaby (O)a.jpg
    Probus Ex Seaby (R)a.jpg
     
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  3. Jwt708

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  4. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Good pick up @Topcat7.

    This one is well centered and has just a bit of silver remaining.
    Probus 3.jpg
    PROBUS
    Antoninianus
    OBVERSE: IMP PROBVS AVG, radiate mantled bust left holding eagle-tipped sceptre
    REVERSE: SOLI INVICTO, Sol in galloping quadriga left, R-thunderbolt-B in ex.
    Struck at Rome, 275-6 AD
    4.2g, 24mm
    RIC 202
     
  5. Jwt708

    Jwt708 Well-Known Member

    That's a very interesting coin @Bing ! Love it!
     
  6. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    VERY nice Probus @Topcat7 ! Like that

    I have a silverd Ant...

    RI Probus 276-282 CE Ant 21mm Riding Horse Obv-Rev.jpg
    RI Probus 276-282 CE Ant 21mm Riding Horse
     
  7. David Atherton

    David Atherton Flavian Fanatic

    Super coin with a lot of eye-appeal!
     
  8. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    nice ant TC, probus and virtus both look great!

    here's my most silvered probus ant..


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  9. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    Lugdunum! RIC 112! Right up my street.

    Probus

    Obv:– IMP C PROBVS • P • F • AVG, Radiate, cuirassed bust right
    Rev:– VIRTVS AVG, Soldier standing left, holding Victory and spear, left hand on shield
    Minted in Lugdunum (IIII in exe) Emission 6 Officina 4. A.D. 278 to 279
    Reference:– Cohen 816. Bastien 298. RIC 112 Bust type F
    Weight 3.72 gms
    Size 22.88mm

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    Silvered but from a worn reverse die:-
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    Probus - Rare bust variation

    Obv:– IMP C PROBVS P F AVG, Radiate, cuirassed bust right (seen from the rear)
    Rev:– VIRTVS AVG, Soldier standing left, holding Victory and spear, left hand on shield
    Minted in Lugdunum (IIII in exe) Emission 6 Officina 4. A.D. 278 to 279
    Reference:– Cohen 816 (Bust not differentiated from Cuirassed from front). Bastien 300 (1 example cited). RIC 112 var (Not listed with this bust type in RIC)

    3.99 gms. 0 degrees.

    This is an unusual bust type for Probus but especially so at Lugdunum. This would appear to be the third known example of this type.

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    Probus - Another bust variety

    Obv:– IMP C PROBVS • P • F • AVG, Radiate, draped and cuirassed bust right
    Rev:– VIR-TV-S AVG, Soldier standing left, holding Victory and spear, left hand on shield
    Minted in Lugdunum (IIII) Emission 6 Officina 4. A.D. 278 – A.D. 279
    Reference:– Cohen -. Bastien 297 (1 example cited), RIC 112 var (not listed with this bust type in RIC)

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    Obsessed?

    Me?

    Yep!

    Martin
     
  10. Topcat7

    Topcat7 Still Learning

    Wow! Martin. (I touched a nerve.) Nice coins! Thanks.
     
  11. Cucumbor

    Cucumbor Well-Known Member

    Beautiful silvered antoninianus. The problem with silvered is either they are fully silvered and they look awesome, either they're partially silvered and they often just look dirty (which @Bing's example doesn't though) to the point I will prefer them toned.

    That said, I have one which is silvered (human brain is tortuous :) )

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    Probus, antoninianus minted in Rome, AD 278-280
    IMP PROBVS AVG, Radiate and cuirassed bust of Probus right
    VICTORIA GERM, Two captives under a trophy. R*A at exergue
    4.32 gr
    Ref : RIC #222, RCV #12055, Cohen #768

    Q
     
  12. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    Super posts everyone!

    Here's a non-silvered variety with toning/patina:
    Probus obverse forum.JPG Probus reverse forum.JPG
     
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  13. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    This one has toned completely black.
    Probus Salus.jpg
     
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  14. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

    Very nice examples!
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  15. PMONNEY

    PMONNEY Flaminivs

    This one is a nice silvered coin.
     
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  16. PMONNEY

    PMONNEY Flaminivs

    On the contrary,this coin (below)is an example of added silver coat,particularly obvious on the reverse. Probusil.jpg Probusilrev.jpg
     
  17. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    Sometimes we have to decide if part silver is ugly compared to coins which have lost all their silver. Sure I like the ones with most of their silver but part silver ones can get terribly patchy looking.
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    Both of my examples have something in common with PMONNEY's coin besides silver. Who remembers us talking about it in the last few years?
     
  18. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    They are not Probus but these two coins of Carus really make the point about the evils of part silver when not well placed. I like the brown one much better.
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  19. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    I agree. I bought a small lot of later Roman coins a year or so ago, in part because they had a lot of silvered campgates. I thought that was desirable. However, because there is patchiness on most of them, to me they look unattractive. I'd like them better with no silvering or with perfect silvering. The latter isn't found very often.
     
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