Opinions on a Seated Dime

So I got this 1891-O Seated Dime in the mail today and although the coin has a dark look to it, it still looks really nice. The fields look pretty good which is why I bought it in the first place.

I'm just wondering if anyone wishes to share their opinion(grade wise) on this coin? I do think I'll be sending this one in to NGC for grading.

 

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EF something. Maybe Au something if there is enough luster.

 

I'd also say XF-AU.

Here is an AU 50 from ebay:






http://www.ebay.com/itm/1891-O-10C-...D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

 

Upon further review, could this be a O/S? I'm pretty sure that's metal inside the O and my book says metal inside the mm means O/S 107- O/O/S

 

It sure looks like it. Congrats.

 

I too am in the XF range and agree that there is something amiss with that MM. Very nice example.

 

XF45

 

So can someone explain where they are seeing enough wear to make it an XF? I have this 1877-CC Graded by NGC, and I can see the wear.... the 1891-O coin, not so much.... It has good cartwheels on both sides.... which this coin is lacking....



Can anyone explain where they're seeing the major circulation as seen on my graded example?

Just trying to learn some more about grading.... really wish they had an ANA grading class around me!

It will be sent in but I just don't know how long it's going to be until that happens....

 

In your picture some of the details on the head and especially the wreath don't show clearly. Wear or not? There does appear to be a lot of obverse luster.

 

What book is saying that this is an O/S?
I know of a 1891 O / Horz O never heard of an O/S

 

Ultimate Guide To Liberty Seated Dimes.

 

Think it's a weak strike.

 

Wear on the wreaths in back, on her face, left Hand, and cap all say XF to me, but I am no expert.

 

Not so much that the OP coin doesn't have wear consistent with an XF grade--I think it does--but more a case that IMO your coin is overgraded by at least 5 points (and I would probably say 10.)

 

OP: If you look at your coin, especially the obverse (less toning so it's easier to see), most of the dark areas on the highest points (the hair, cap, right arm, thighs, etc.) are where the coin has small amounts of wear that have removed the mint luster of the rest of the coin.

It is, however, a beautiful coin, probably XF45 or XF47 (AU50).

The weakness of the strike, especially around the New Orleans mint mark make it hard to be sure... there is a known O over inverted S variety (F-111 and F-112):

http://www.seateddimevarieties.com/pictorial/1891o.htm

These happened for two reasons, either the die was prepared (all were done in Philadelphia) for SF and then it wasn't needed so it was repunched for New Orleans. Or, the die sinkers were known to us a punch in an unobvious place to test if the die was properly softened... using a small S die where the bigger O was to go might have been thought to be invisible.

 

So you think the 1877-CC is a VF35?

 

From the pics. yes that would have been my guess

 

Comparing it to the other graded coins, IMHO your coin lacks detail on the reverse to reach XF. I hope I'm wrong and if you send it in to be graded I will be proven wrong

 

Comparing your coin to the graded coins other members have posted, IMHO the reverse of your coin seems to kack enough detail to reach XF. (Unless it's the photo). If you send it in to be graded, hope I'm proven wrong and you get the XF grade. Best of luck to you!

 

I think the toning and the image are hiding the detail and the true look of the coin.
BigTee said it has cartwheel luster. I can believe it.

This is a quote from Greer's book. It was published in 1992. I'll bet more is known about this today.

"Several reverses, including Ahwash 8 show extra metal within the mintmark. These are often referred to as O over S. However, none seen show enough remains of the earlier punch to be conclusive."

BigTee, If you get a chance to image it again, try to really light it up.