Diocletian and Maximian

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  1. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    Local brick-and-mortar shop purchases. Not rare by any means, but attractive examples from Cyzicus. Let's see your examples of these co-emperors!

    Diocletian Concordia Militum Antoninanus.jpg
    Diocletian, AD 284-304
    Roman AE Antoninianus
    Cyzicus mint, AD 284-295
    19.4 mm; 3.32 gm
    Obv: IMPCCVAL DIOCLETIANVS AVG, radiate and draped bust, r.
    Rev: CONCORDIA MILITVM, Emperor standing r., receiving Victory from Jupiter standing l., Γ in field, below; XII in exergue.
    RIC 306

    Maximian.jpg
    Maximian AD 286-308
    Roman AE Antoninianus
    Cyzicus mint, AD 286-295
    23.0 mm; 3.78 gm
    Obv: IMPCMA MAXIMIANVS AVG, radiate and draped bust, r.
    Rev: CONCORDIA MILITVM, Emperor standing r., receiving Victory from Jupiter standing l., Γ in field, below; XII in exergue.
    RIC 607
     
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  3. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

    Both looks great!
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  4. Victor_Clark

    Victor_Clark all my best friends are dead Romans Dealer

    Diocletian I
    A.D. 294
    Ӕ Antoninianus
    23x24mm 3.5gm
    DIOCLETIANVS•P•F•AVG; Radiate, draped and cuirassed bust right, seen from rear.
    SALVS AVGG; Salus standing right, feeding snake from patera.
    In ex. A
    RIC V Lugdunum --; Bastien 624

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    Maximianus
    A.D. 298- 9
    26x27mm 10.4gm
    IMP MAXIMIANVS P F AVG; Laureate head right.
    SALVIS AVGG ET CAESS AVCTA KART; Carthage standing facing, head left, holding fruits in both hands.
    In ex. B
    RIC VI Carthage 27b

    This type references the victory of Maximianus over the Quinquegentiani -- a rebellious tribe in North Africa.

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  5. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Those are nice looking coins @Roman Collector. Are they that shiny in hand or is it the light reflection? They almost look like they've had wax applied.
    Diocletian 7.jpg
    DIOCLETIAN
    AE27 Silvered Follis
    OBVERSE: IMP C C VAL DIOCLETIANVS P F AVG, laureate head right
    REVERSE: GENIO POPV-L-IROMANI, Genius standing left, holding patera & cornucopia, HTA in ex.
    Struck at Heraclea, 296-297 AD
    9.3g, 27mm
    RIC VI 19a
    Maximianus 7.jpg
    MAXIMIANUS
    AE Follis
    OBVERSE: IMP C MA MAXIMIANVS P F AVG, laureate head right
    REVERSE: GENIO POPVLI ROMANI, Genius standing left, holding patera & cornucopia, Delta to right, dot TS dot in ex.
    Struck at Thessalonica, 302/3 AD
    10.3g, 27mm
    RIC VI 25b
     
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  6. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    The Maximian has a glossy, black patina and needed a lot of light to photograph. The Diocletian isn't as reflective in hand.

    I like comparing the same reverse types from two different mints, such as in your examples, @Bing. On the Diocletian from Heraclea, Genius is a wirey fellow, whereas on the Maximian from Thessalonica, Genius has definitely been doing some squats at the gym!
     
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  7. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Very nice coins @Roman Collector ... Those are great.

    I have only placeholder examples:

    DIOCLETIAN
    RI Diocletian 284-305 CE AE Folles VOT XX Obv-Rev.jpg
    RI Diocletian 284-305 CE AE Folles VOT XX


    MAXIMIAN
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    RI MAXIMIANUS HERCULIUS 286-305 CE antoninianus Antioch 292-295 CE CONCORDIA MILITVM Jupiter H-officina 8
     
  8. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    I am very fond of the pre reform coins of these two. First is an attractive for its multicolor tone rather than grade Diocletian antoninianus with both Jupiter and Hercules on the reverse.
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    This Maximianus is a very scarce issue by Carausius from the London mint. This one is defective in that thepoor centering lost the diagnostic AVGGG at reverse right but the London mintmark is clear. I want the Diocletian from this series.
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    I have a page on the coins like the one below. The names of the favored gods were divided into three parts and used to code the coins. In Greek, I O BI spells Jupiter (not Zeus) so this officina B coin has the second part of the name or O following the alloy mark XXI. I like the coded coins. Who has some?
    http://www.forumancientcoins.com/dougsmith/code.html
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  9. Publius

    Publius Active Member

    Hi guys! Unfortunately I don't have a Diocletian but I have these 2... :happy:
    Maximian I Herculius Antioch 621.jpg
    Antoninian (3,7 g., 23 mm)
    Antioch Mint (Є∆ / XXI)
    Obv:
    IMP C M A MAXIMIANVS P F AVG
    Radiate, draped and cuirassed bust right.
    Rev: CONCORDIA MILITVM
    Emperor standing left, holding sceptre and receiving Victory on globe from Jupiter standing right, holding sceptre.

    Maximian I Herculius Cyzicus 12b.jpg

    Æ1 Follis (7,78 g., 28 mm)
    Cyzicus Mint (K∆)
    Obv:
    IMP C M A MAXIMIANVS P F AVG
    Laureate head right.
    Rev: GENIO POPV-LI ROMANI
    Genius standing left, modius on head, naked with chlamys over left shoulder, right hand holding patera (from which liquor flows), left holding cornucopia.
     
  10. dadams

    dadams Well-Known Member

    Well I finally get to play here:

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    Maximianus Herculius (286-305), Æ3 Silvered Antoninianus. Antioch, Officina 8 AD 293.
    Obv: IMP C M A MAXIMIANVS P F AVG - Radiate, cuirassed bust right.
    Rev: CONCORDIA MIL_ITVM - Emperor standing right, scepter in left hand, receiving Victory on globe from Jupiter standing left, scepter in left hand. H in lower field, XXI in exergue.
    20mm, 3.7g. Remnant silvering.
    RIC V, Part II ANTIOCH 621
     
  11. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    here's a 4 buck junk bag diocletian i picked up at a coin show last weekend.....

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    Diocletian, 296-297 AD, AE radiate fraction

    O: IMP C DIOCLETIANVS PF AVG, radiate, draped, cuirassed bust right R: CONCORDIA MI-LITVM, Emperor standing right, receiving Victory on globe from Jupiter, standing left, holding sceptre. D in lower centre. Mintmark ALE. RIC VI Alexandria 46A, 20 mm, 2.7 g.
     
  12. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    I like 4 buck junk bag coins. Especially ones like this.
     
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  13. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

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    Diocletian, AD 284-305
    Bl Antoninianus, 4.1g, 20mm, 12h; Antioch mint, AD 284
    Obv.: IMP C C VAL DIOCLETIANVS P F AVG, radiate, draped and cuirassed bust right.
    Rev.: IOVI CONSERVATO-RI AVGG, Emperor (on left) and Jupiter standing confronted, Emperor holding parazonium, Jupiter presenting Victory on a globe offering wreath and holding long scepter vertical behind in left, Δ in center, XXI in exergue.
    Reference: RIC Vb, 324, p. 256


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    Maximianus Herculius, AD 286-305, 306-308, and 310
    Bl Antoninianus, 4.0g, 23mm, 12h; Antioch mint, AD 286-295
    Obverse: IMP C M AVR VAL MAXIMIANVS P F AVG. Radiated and cuirassed bust to right.
    Reverse: IOVI ET HERCV CONSER AVGG. Jupiter standing right holding sceptre and orb facing Hercules standing left holding Victory, club, and lion’s skin; Є between, XXI in exergue.
    Reference: RIC Vb 622, p. 294.
     
  14. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

    This ones interesting being silvered but very worn and rough.
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  15. Pishpash

    Pishpash Well-Known Member

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    Maximianus
    Coin: Bronze Antoninianus
    IMP C M A MAXIMIANVS AVG - radiate and draped bust right
    CONCORDIA MILITVM - Jupiter presents Victory on a globe to Maximianus, Delta between
    Exergue: [​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG]
    Mint: Heraclea (AD 292-295)
    Wt./Size/Axis: 4.21g / 22mm / -
    References:
    • RIC 607, D
     
  16. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    Wonderful posts!!!!

    I'll just add my Ant of Max------I just couldn't resist the portrait (looks like he's thinking...."Holy crap, that dude is wrestling a lion"). ;):p

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  17. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    I had a bid on a similar coin, but was out-sniped. Rats!
     
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