Ok, I think I need a little help with this one. I picked this up today from a local B&M as a curiosity piece. I was able to acquire it for a little above melt, so it was worth it to me. Now, I don't think it's a ragged edge planchet, but I do think it started out as a clipped planchet though. You can see evidence of the Blakesley Effect on the opposite side of the coin in the rim. My guess, is this was a clipped planchet that was made of an improperly mixed alloy and possibly due to lamination issues or something, the edge with the clip kind of fell apart. I am asking the error experts in here for your opinions. I can only imagine finding something like this on a Morgan Dollar, wow!! But a Half Dollar is not too bad either. P.S. I know it's a DDR as well, but it's not the FS-801. I'm including very large images so you can give it a good examination.
I think that it is a Ragged Edge Planchet. Or a Flawed Planchet. Nothing to do with improperly mixed alloy at all.
I've noticed that the rim started to form on the obverse and the reverse has lots of cracks coming off of the effected area, with no rim forming .. As far as what happen ?????
I looked on Errorref.com and it is defined as a ragged clip. Though yours seems to be the extreme. That's a cool half. I would have bought it.
There appears to be a slight blakesley below the 4 and above OF. Blakesleys can be funny. Usually the larger the area of the clip, the less it effects upset at the opposite end. O believe paddy nailed it. A ragged edge clip.
I just acquired one with the flaw going the whole way into Kennedy's head. That is definitely a ragged edge planchet defect. Mine came from a mint bag, rescued by a teller in 1964. After "conserving" it NGC graded it MS 65 and I sold it to another dealer at our last club show. Great find and a great buy!
How can you determine if something is a ragged clip or PMD 50+ years later? On the OP's coin, not the poster above me.
That coin was in a man,s shirt pocket when he was struck by lightning and vaporized, leaving only the coin behind.
The clear manifestation of Blakesley Effect on the opposite rim tells the story here. The coin was clipped in some fashion when struck; it's the only way the Blakesley could have happened. When one looks closely, despite the missing metal the diameter - if not the rim - is relatively complete. The fairly minor Blakesley Effect could be explained by that, meaning the coin could well have sneaked through the process exactly as we see it instead of delaminating later. The strike of the O in DOLLAR tends to hint that metal was already missing at the moment of strike, while the strike of the adjacent L isn't tapered, which argues against. Interesting coin.
If the punch overlaps the ragged ends of the strip, a resulting ragged area of missing metal occurs. AKA Ragged Clipped Planchet. Nice find.
Hey guys, thank you all for your replies. I had a bit of a rough day yesterday and decided to kind of keep to myself. Nothing big, just personal stuff. Anyway's, I was thinking this was possibly a ragged edge clipped planchet. Just one thing didn't make sense to me. The O in DOLLAR and the L in HALF are visible and don't appear to be weak or pulling towards the clip. It looks like the struck metal separated after the strike. Regardless, I think it's pretty cool and wanted to thank you guys for the info.
Sorry, I didn't see your question earlier. In the images above, the pick-up for the DDR is the in the stars under STATES. It's pretty minor and I didn't notice it until I was shooting the coin and working with the image.
That one is pretty insane!! What I like about my example is how on the reverse the core of the planchet is visible.
