AR tetradrachm coin... Real or not a and how rare?

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  1. tesla1975

    tesla1975 New Member

    Hi... I was given these by my grandmother and I was not sure if there were real. Also I did a search on the net and could not find where under the chair it said
    ΔIO.

    What do you think? Real? and if so what value?

    Thanks for any help.
    Alexander III AR tetradrachm back.jpg Alexander III AR tetradrachm front.jpg
     

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  3. Pishpash

    Pishpash Well-Known Member

    Can you give us the diameter and weight in grams?
     
  4. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Hmm, I'm not sure what to think about this coin's authenticity but am leaning toward inauthentic.

    The tiny pits covering the obverse are worrisome (casting bubbles in the investment?) although not in themselves enough to condemn the coin because some coins can look this way after being in the ground for centuries.

    The style looks off, particularly the reverse.

    If authentic, the coin was struck in Memphis. However, all other examples I've found show the ΔIO monogram as split, with the ΔI below the throne and the O to the right of the throne's back leg. None of the archive coins have BAΣIΛEΩΣ below the throne. Also, other examples I've found show Zeus with crossed legs.

    Here are some examples of Alexander III tetradrachms struck in Memphis:

    CNG's archives

    ACsearch
     
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  5. tesla1975

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  6. gsimonel

    gsimonel Well-Known Member

    Size and weight seem about right. Notice the ring of dots on the reverses of the sample coins. I can't see any dots on yours, even though there is enough room on the flan for dots on the obverse. That, plus the difference in style, suggests that yours is a souvenir piece.
     
  7. Aethelred

    Aethelred The Old Dead King

    Not genuine
     
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  8. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    I lean towards the coin not being genuine
     
  9. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    Unfortunately I think it's a 'fake' too.....The 'bubbles', overall style and soft details seem to guarantee it. Check the edge for a seam.
     
  10. KIWITI

    KIWITI Well-Known Member

    looks like a replica
     
  11. tesla1975

    tesla1975 New Member

    Thanks for the help. I will toss it out....
     
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  12. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    It's way too pretty ... and the coin-fabric just ain't right, know what I mean?

    => sadly, my vote is "fail" ... but it's a c
    ool fake though (if it's real, then congrats to Granny)

    :rolleyes:
     
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  13. Andres2

    Andres2 Well-Known Member

    coinsize is OK ,but the weight is 2 gram over the normal weight of 16/ 17 gram, which gives it away as a fake, it looks fake too in the pictures, the shape of the outer rim is bizar and the colour looks artificial. * TIF means that tetradrachms from the Memphis mint lack the BASILEOS in the exergue.
    Wonder where your grandmother got this coin ?
     
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  14. Ancientnoob

    Ancientnoob Money Changer

    19 grams is too much. It is a fake.
     
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  15. Theodosius

    Theodosius Fine Style Seeker

    See if it will leave a mark if you rub the edge on a piece of white paper. Silver coins will not leave a mark. Various other alloys like those containing lead will.

    Keep it as a nice reproduction.
     
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  16. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    Style just doesn't look right to me.

    If I were to guess (and mind you, that's all this is, just a guess), I'd say fake, but possibly an older fake.

    For a repro, it's pretty nice looking.
     
  17. Andres2

    Andres2 Well-Known Member

    Looks like an Alexander Ceylon style
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    mixed with a touch of Gangnam style

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  18. tesla1975

    tesla1975 New Member

    My grandmother could have picked these up like 30-40 years ago in the shops below the Acropolis...

    She also got these as well which I would assume to be repo's as well: 20161022_185634.jpg 20161022_185614.jpg 20161022_185442.jpg 20161022_185351.jpg
    Sorry for the poor photos... :)
     
  19. David@PCC

    David@PCC allcoinage.com

    Sorry to tell you, but it is illegal to sell real ancient coins in Greece, not sure when that law was passed though. All of the above are tourist copies.
     
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    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

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