1912 proof 64 barber half.

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  1. Mr. Cartwheel

    Mr. Cartwheel New Member

    I would like your thoughts on the authenticity of the holder and the coin.

    Best Regards,
     

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  3. redcent230

    redcent230 Well-Known Member

    Nice looking coin, but it would nice to have the coin right side up to see. Barber is always my favorite design coin.
     
  4. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    Right side up? How about in focus. I can't tell nothin' from those pics.........not that I could if they were in focus. :)


    Try again OP.
     
  5. Rassi

    Rassi #GoCubs #FlyTheW #WeAreGood

    Also, if you're looking for authenticity of the holder, a good shot of the label (both sides) would most likely help...
     
  6. Cascade

    Cascade CAC Grader, Founding Member

    Looks like an NGC holder
     
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  7. KoinJester

    KoinJester Well-Known Member

    Old soap bar holder, nice color
     
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  8. Golden age

    Golden age Go for the gold

    The holder looks to be in pretty good condition, can't see the coin well enough to say.
     
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  9. Old NGC holder, so you can be 99.99% sure on authenticity. As for grade etc., well there would need to be better pictures as others have said.
     
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  10. MMiller750

    MMiller750 Active Member

    That is a beautiful coin, I really like it!
    As Log Potato said it is authentic, we would need better photos for the grade but I am guessing it is graded accurately.
     
  11. Mr. Cartwheel

    Mr. Cartwheel New Member

    It is the green holder + barcode that raises a flag to me.
     
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  13. Ericred

    Ericred Active Member

    Mr Cartwheel, just for my learning, why does the bar code and green holder concern you?, any info, thanks
     
  14. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank


    ditto
     
  15. Cascade

    Cascade CAC Grader, Founding Member

    @Conder101 could help but get a full slab shot up
     
  16. Mr. Cartwheel

    Mr. Cartwheel New Member

    I have not seen this combination of green label + barcode before. Is it rare?
     
  17. COCollector

    COCollector Well-Known Member

  18. Burton Strauss III

    Burton Strauss III Brother can you spare a trime? Supporter

    Looks good to me.

    Conder can't help :( since he's color blind, it was years afterwards that he realized there were brown and green labels. So he isn't able to differentiate when green became brown...

    The chronology in the book is messed up with a couple typos (1987 s/b 1997, etc.), best reference is the 2008 post on the NGC board, http://boards.collectors-society.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=2248404

    NGC 4 with no-line fatty (no key on the insert) slab and a full sized hologram
    was used from August of 1989 when the counterfeit scare caused an increase in security measures for both NGC and PCGS (holograms and bar codes). When it ended isn't known. In Conder's post the color photo IS green.

    NGC5 - this one - added the first bar code. Still the no-line fatty slab and full width hologram. Conder's guess for these is 1992 to 1995 and in the color photo he shows a brown label.

    NGC6 - a transitional variety (and in the photo with a brown label) started in 1996. This is the first with the divided or keyed insert.


    So I'd have to guess the beginning of NGC5 (still green label) or around 1992.
     
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  19. Mr. Cartwheel

    Mr. Cartwheel New Member

    I hope that these pictures can assist with your evaluation.
     
  20. Ericred

    Ericred Active Member

  21. Mr. Cartwheel

    Mr. Cartwheel New Member

     

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