That's a tough one. Looks to me an MS coin, but what MS grade was assigned... Although surfaces seem to be a much higher grade, due to the uneven toning I would assign an MS 63 to the coin...Mike
Ruben this is one of those cases where eye appeal plays a critical role. There is beautiful toning, and then there is toning. And because of the toning on this coin it has poor eye appeal. Now it is true that beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but most eyes who behold that coin will see little if any beauty. As always, just my honest opinion.
This coin is a PIA because its nearly impossible to photo. It actually has a good luster. I think I'll take a movie of it. that was a quick photo taken by hand without even the tripod. Ruben
It's not the luster that is in question - it is the toning. The flat black or brown toning that this coin has, or at least appears to have, is liked by very, very few collectors. Most would even say it is ugly - and that is what harms the eye appeal.
Because of the (seeming) lack of nicks, taps, and rub. The coin and its rims look "clean" of contact marks/rub. The toning and overall eye appeal of the coin net grades the coin downward -- thus the low MS grade (IMHO)....Mike
I didn't spend much on it but I borught it from the heritage photo which I thought looked cool But it doesn't look like that motted image that my photo made of it. Ruben
hmmm, well, despite it's seeming lack of eye appeal, it appears to be basically mark free. I'll go MS64 on this one. Try taking some photos in sunlight. Sunlight is good for capturing luster.
IMO there comes a point where a hi res image becomes TOO high. If you're examining DD's, RPM's, etc. you need very hi res. But for an image which represents what you would see if you had the coin in hand you need to keep the image size reasonable. Make your image, put it up on your screen and then hold the real coin next to it. Then ask yourself the question, "Does the image reasonably reflect what the real coin looks like?" Your large images take what could be a reasonable coin and makes it look VERY unpleasant.
I think the Heritage photo makes the coin look much better, but I'd still be surprised if this made it into a 65 or higher holder...Mike
probably graded as an MS66 - it is in an NGC holder. but that coin lacks eye appeal and as such i wouldn't pay more than $18.00 for it - if it's FSB, i'd be surprised. -steve
With me it' not the question of if it's a MS or not, but what I'm seeing in what you are calling black toning, sure gives off a blue/green cast when it's observed through filters. I'm of the oppinion that it just may not be toning. As for Heritage, they have in the past resorted to doctoring their pics and shooting through filters to eliminate certain qualities. So don't let that fool you when looking at their photos.
You might be right about this. They don't look that bad in the hand, more like the heritage coin. I think, however, that there is also a need to just take a better picture, which will take a little time that I don't have right now. Soon. What is DD's amd RPM's? Ruben
Wow old dan, I didn't know that. You think that Photo was doctored? That would be a highly questionable business practice on hertigaes part if true. Ruben