1794 Dollar US Mint Medal

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  1. geekpryde

    geekpryde Husband and Father Moderator

    I believe bulk purchasers have access to buy 10% of the overall mintage (7,500 medals) early, hence there are already slabbed PCGS examples, including those with privy marks.

    Check out the pop report below. I am screenshotting it to document this for future. Before it was released at noon, there were already hundreds slabbed (I looked yesterday).

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    Modern Commemorative Medals PCGS Pop Report

    Decent number of 70's getting in PCGS plastic vs 69s.
     
    Last edited: Oct 15, 2024
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  3. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    I was just going to guess that the privy-mark listings were people who hoped to get one, and would cancel the sale if they didn't. But if PCGS already has an extensive population... smells skunky, and makes me somewhat glad I gave this issue a pass.
     
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  4. Vess1

    Vess1 CT SP VIP Supporter

    Since 2021 the mint has had an agreement with several large authorized dealers to allow up to 10% of some products to be sold pre-sale to them but I believe they have to be picked up in person. I heard 175 of the privy marked ones were already sent out presale to these dealers. Somebody claimed that they knew of this.
     
  5. Vess1

    Vess1 CT SP VIP Supporter

    Yeah not really rare when they'll all be 100% preserved except for the ones that are sent back and destroyed. The mint CS told me they do not resell anything shipped back to them. That they get destroyed.

    As far as value, a dealer may only offer you bullion value on them but I’ll guarantee no dealer will sell you one at bullion value. They’ll likely be around $80 to $100 until silver spot surpasses that. Graded ones will be higher. Similar to previous years medals. I don’t think they’ll drop to same price as a tarnished 1 oz bar from 1970 in the junk bin though some feel that’s what they should be at.

    In the end it’ll be another lesson in supply and demand. Anybody who bought from mint won’t sell one for less than the $100 I’d imagine less maybe a few desperate individuals. I wonder how many will be shipped back.
     
  6. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    They might be telling you that, but I don't believe a word of it. 10 years ago, with the baseball commems, there was all of a sudden a re-emergence of availability weeks after they had all sold out. I ordered a few, knowing full well that these were discards for one reason or another, and my reasoning resounded. They were indeed substandard in regard to pristine condition but I didn't care, as I was going to turn them into pocket pieces.
     
  7. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    Atta boy!!!!!
     
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  8. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    That would be so cool
     
  9. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    To say the least, but welcome to the world of 'quick flip' and marvelous mayhem.....
     
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  10. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    Still up for sale as of 6:53 PM......
     
  11. Vess1

    Vess1 CT SP VIP Supporter

    I admit I was a bit skeptical of the absoluteness of that statement myself. They may even have different policies for different issues. Or the CS rep may not know the full extent of what they're doing either. Wouldn't shock me at all.
     
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  12. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    I don't recall "defective units returned to Mint and destroyed" being called out in any official mintage figures, for what that's worth.
    Cutting one's losses doesn't necessarily require desperation, though. You might only get 50% of your money back if you sell, but you get 0% back if you don't.
     
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  13. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    Yup. Dey's always worth sumptin'......
     
  14. Vess1

    Vess1 CT SP VIP Supporter

    As I said in post #70, I didn't completely believe it myself. Are they required to call out what they end up destroying? I figured it was part of what was missing from the final numbers if they did. The final mintage of these flowing hairs will probably be 74,XXX something, it wont be 75 even. I have no idea how the official final number comes out in the end or if returns or destroyed product is subtracted out. Am curious now though.
     
  15. Yankee42

    Yankee42 Well-Known Member

    Now showing as unavailable.
     
  16. Randy Abercrombie

    Randy Abercrombie Supporter! Supporter

    And Johnny On The Spot too...... I got a tracking number last night.
     
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  17. robec

    robec Junior Member

    Mine is due to be here on Monday.
     
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  18. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    Mine too....
     
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  19. stlnats

    stlnats Active Member

    I like the concept but was turned off by the images and the price so decided not to order as I also did not order the 2024 Morgan/Peace trinkets. Hoping the medal would look better I decided I just couldn't resist and ordered one midafternoon on the 15th. Got a confirm and email promising delivery on Monday.
     
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  20. Vess1

    Vess1 CT SP VIP Supporter

    Got mine today. Disappointed.

    It’s perfect….except for about a 6 mm streak of die polish in the field. Was so hoping it was on the plastic. I wish Pinehurst would have gotten this one.

    Eye instantly drawn to it so obvious there’s zero QC. Just kick everything out and box it up.
     

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  21. geekpryde

    geekpryde Husband and Father Moderator

    :(
     
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