1852 D Gold Dollar

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  1. JoshuaP

    JoshuaP Supporter! Supporter

    Ok, I acknowledge that I am bad at taking pictures of silver. I just discovered that I am even worse at gold. I'll keep working on it....

    What are your thoughts on this dollar? The clash is stronger than any I have seen (which are very few). Maybe VF condition? Is it ex-jewelry? I am not sure what the lines are on the reverse.

    As always, Thank you! 20241010_143656.jpg 20241010_143730.jpg 20241010_143733.jpg 20241010_143814.jpg 20241010_143817.jpg
     
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  3. JoshuaP

    JoshuaP Supporter! Supporter

    Here are a couple more, perhaps better. 20241010_150209.jpg 20241010_150231.jpg
     
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  4. Coins4Eli

    Coins4Eli Collector of Early American Copper

    Looks like it was once in jewelry with the obverse facing out, that's why it is considerably more worn than the reverse. It has a really strong die cash on the upper obverse that is interesting.
     
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  5. KeyHunter

    KeyHunter Active Member

    Last edited: Oct 13, 2024
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  6. JoshuaP

    JoshuaP Supporter! Supporter

    I appreciate your response. I am on the fence with this one as well. I am going to take it to a coin shop and have it verified.
     
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  7. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    At the bottom of the PCGS page. There is always something written about the coin listed.
    I can't quite tell from the photos, but it seems the coin shows most if not all the markers.
    The coin is well known for multiple clash marks on the obverse.
    @JoshuaP check your coin against the markers detailed on coinfacts.
    PS I am not a gold guy.
     
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  8. Rheingold

    Rheingold Well-Known Member

    Sorry to tell, but this „coin“ is a counterfeit.
    These are fairly common.
    :(
     
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  9. KeyHunter

    KeyHunter Active Member

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    The more I'm comparing pics from other sites I tend to agree...the oversized 8, the 5, the mint mark, the parallel lines look like it was run through a punching machine or something. I'm presently shopping $1 Gold Dollars for my developing type collection, that attracted me to this posted topic. Great education! I shopping only slabbed, problem details-free coins.
     
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  10. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    According to Doug Winter, there is only one die variety for the 1852-D gold dollar. This one does not match it. The date and mint make are wrong.

    Sadly I have to say counterfeit.

    Here is an example of the real thing.

    1852-D Gold Dollar All.jpg
     
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  11. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    Yes, gold dollars have been plagued by counterfeits from the time I started collecting in the 1960s and well before then. The counterfeiter can turn a small amount of gold into a big pay day.

    If you are looking for a type coin, the Philadelphia Mint coins are the best place to go. They are usually well struck, and Mint State pieces are not rare.

    Here's the highest grade one that I have. it is an 1853 Philadelphia which is also the most common Type I gold dollar date. It is also the date that is most often counterfeited. It's in an MS-64 holder. I bought this from a dealer who was panning on cracking it out to get a higher grade. For that reason, I probably over paid.

    1853 Gold Dol All.jpg
     
  12. JoshuaP

    JoshuaP Supporter! Supporter

    Thank you all for your help. I cannot say how much I appreciate it! Even with disappointing news, I am grateful. I will return this coin. Thankfully, I will not lose money on it. I thought the clash would not be counterfeited, but obviously some people are pretty good at fakes!
     
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  13. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    As the Variety' I get ya, only one die was lapped..
     
  14. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    Thats a Perty dollar MR.Milton
     
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  15. fretboard

    fretboard Defender of Old Coinage!

    Gotta agree, all of his gold coins are top shelf, he don't play! thumbupp.gif
     
  16. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    It;s just money,,,
    And Love..
     
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