Who’s collecting pre 82 pennies for copper value

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  1. Bob sap

    Bob sap Member

    I gotta say I am excited to pay for groceries with cash so I can scavenge my coins
     
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  3. Spark1951

    Spark1951 Accomplishment, not Activity

    No one should be, imo, but many of the uninformed still do so.

    It is illegal to melt U.S. cents for their metal value and…
    The alloy they are composed of is not the type copper smelters accept.

    Search Coin Talk using key words to find a veritable cornucopia of posts regarding saving copper cents. You will discover saving copper cents that no longer have numismatic value or a very small value is an exercise in futility…imo…Spark
     
  4. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    You're better off rolling them up and depositing them at your bank. o_O
     
  5. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    It’s against the law to melt them so why save them? They take up lots of room and the more you have the heavier they are to move them.
     
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  6. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    Don’t be a sap, Bob.
     
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  7. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    Not as long as there are "greater fools" out there. There seems to be a steady stream of buyers at 2x FV or more. (I'm not one of them.)

    There was a time when you were better off rolling up 90% silver and depositing it, and a longer time when you were better off rolling up 40% silver and depositing it. There will certainly come a day when copper cents are worth well over face value, even after taking the hit for the lower copper grade...

    ...but they still won't be worth much in ACTUAL value. Who cares that you'll get 25 cents each for pre-1982 cents, if it takes fifty bucks to buy a small burger? You're better off selling or depositing them now, and putting the money into something that will stay ahead of inflation. Or, of course, you can sit on a room full of cents, waiting for your small fortune to, well, remain a small fortune.
     
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  8. Lon Chaney

    Lon Chaney Well-Known Member

    I used to until I had a few boxes worth, but I ended up dumping them.
    You'll get more love in the coin roll hunting forum by the way.
     
  9. KBBPLL

    KBBPLL Well-Known Member

    To me hoarding copper cents is like the Seinfeld episode where Kramer and Newman are going to make money by driving their 5c deposit cans to Michigan to cash in on the 10c deposit rate there. Spoiler alert - it ends in disaster.
     
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  10. Heavymetal

    Heavymetal Well-Known Member

    Only the US law is keeping these from being removed from circulation and melted for feed stock of brass.
    Soon the US cent will be discontinued. Canada already did. Only due to a political animosity didn’t it happen 5 years ago.
    Speculation price is currently about double face with copper at $4.50+ per pound. Face is about $1.45 per pound
     
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  11. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    As I approach retirement, I'm looking to protect various investments in the five- and six-figure range - in today's dollars. Sitting on tens of tons of copper just doesn't really appeal, no matter the form factor.
     
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  12. MK Ultra

    MK Ultra Well-Known Member

    Curious about the illegality of melting cents. How would anyone know? Has anyone ever been arrested for it?
     
  13. Heavymetal

    Heavymetal Well-Known Member

    With you on that brother. I do prefer silver but I already have too much in the SDB. Those CDs were nice for the last couple years but 5% doesn’t cut it. Moved into GLD and SLV 2 months ago . Been wind at my back since then.
     
  14. Bob sap

    Bob sap Member

    Melting them is only CURRENTLY illegal IF you sell the melted product. Selling the actual pennies is no illegal and I’ve sold 5$ FV for 12-15 bucks at a time.

    also once we move to a cashless society, I doubt any of the legalities will apply
     
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  15. Bob sap

    Bob sap Member

    Also yes, silver stacking is great. Never said this can compare. But why not keep free copper if you can

    Fellow gold silver and platinum stacker here. Keeping copper Pennie’s and stacking precious metals aren’t mutually exclusive

    and it’s not a way to “get rich” but people DO buy pre 82 cents for 2x FV and I have sold them to people at 2X FV
     
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  16. KBBPLL

    KBBPLL Well-Known Member

    I can only speculate that people have done it. But you can't just take them somewhere, you'd have to have your own smelter and then find someone who wants to buy homemade chunks of 95% copper 5% zinc, all while looking over your shoulder. You have to accumulate $1.54 in cents to have 1 pound of copper currently worth $4.52. So even if you could sell your 95% chunks of copper at full price, how much money do you want to profit from this illegal venture? $1000? You're going to need to pull 50,000 copper cents out of roll hunting. Probably over double that for a realistic price you'd get for your homemade chunks. All in order to earn $1000. I'm guessing people quickly learn that it's a waste of time.
     
  17. Bob sap

    Bob sap Member

    It’s not illegal to sell the coins.
    Also not illegal to melt unless you sell the product. Also this will likely not matter when we go cashless
     
  18. Bob sap

    Bob sap Member

    Nobody is getting rich keeping 82s
    Maybe there are speculators who exchange them in large quantities who are betting on a move entirely away from cash where melting and selling would not be illegal-if a large company does this they may make a lot of profit in the future but that’s tangential

    but also nobody is wasting time holding onto 82s that cross their path and there is no downside to doing this lol

    it’s as simple as just not spending 82s. Nobody mentioned trying to get rich

    also I just like the way they look lol. Copper is badass metal
     
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  19. Bob sap

    Bob sap Member

    holding GLD SLV is a joke
    Trading them is fine but as a long term holder of PMs physical is the only way

    SLV literally leases its silver holdings. Their physical stocks are literally owned by multiple parties. What happens when silver hits 100/oz? Yea no good if you must hold something other than physical go with PSLV. They actually have a backing of audited silver and you can redeem your shares for physical if requested
     
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  20. Heavymetal

    Heavymetal Well-Known Member

    Yeah that $8000 I made last month really sucked
    My physical holdings are just insurance against politicians.
    And enjoyment and entertainment. Numismatics
     
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  21. Bob sap

    Bob sap Member

    I have SLV and GLD LOL
    yes it was a good month. Just saying look into SLV and how many entities own their silver holdings. They’re leased
     
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