Medieval crusader coin of Bohemund III forced itself on me...honestly

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Sallent, Nov 4, 2016.

  1. Sallent

    Sallent Live long and prosper

    So here I was minding my business, all innocent and full of good intentions not to give Bing and other naysayers the benefit of the doubt by purchasing another coin. Suddenly I was brutally assailed by this nefarious coin of Bohemund III. I swear it forced itself on me.

    Despite my loud protestations and best of intentions to safeguard myself from another coin, this insolent coin devised an execrable yet precocious plan to force me to make purchase of it.

    I protest my innocence. I didn't do anything. Blame the coin, and not it's reprobate owner.

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    CRUSADERS Principality of Antioch Bohemund III 1149-1163
    AR Denier 17mm. 0.90g. Helmet Denier, Class E

    Helmeted head left (with cross) in mail coat; crescent before, star after.
    +BOANVHDVS

    Cross pattée; crescent in 2nd quadrant.
    +ANTI:.OCHIA

    Metcalf LE 400; CCS 67b

    Notes: Lightly toned. Faint porosity.
     
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  3. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

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    As I'm wiping my tears away, I guess I should tell you that's a nice coin.
     
  4. Jwt708

    Jwt708 Well-Known Member

    It's a cool addition but we all know you're not done buying this year until after 31 December.:D
     
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  5. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    I think that's a safe bet!
     
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  6. Sallent

    Sallent Live long and prosper

    Glad I gave you a good laugh. I'm ending the year and beginning the new year on a mission to strengthen the quality of my medieval coin collection and my Eastern Empires coin collection...so I'm going to be acquiring quite a few medieval coins, Parthian coins, and maybe a few Sassanian, Arabia Felix, Islamic, etc.

    It will probably be mid-year before I return to Greeks and Romans.
     
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  7. FitzNigel

    FitzNigel Medievalist

    Nice one - I do like the helmeted types. I have one that is apparently from Bohemond's minority (haven't looked at the book yet, but this is what the seller records, and I bought it years ago before I kept good records)

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    Crusader Principality of Antioch
    Bohemond III, r. 1149-1201
    AR Denier, Class B, 16.53mm x 1 gram
    Obv.: +BOANVNDVS, bare head right
    Rev.: +ANTIOCHIA, cross pattee in circle
     
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  8. Magnus Maximus

    Magnus Maximus Dulce et Decorum est....

    IMG_1585.JPG The Normans are pretty cool, hell I get my Y chromosome from them so they must be cool!:D
    Nice coin.
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  9. Sallent

    Sallent Live long and prosper

    I like your coin a lot. I don't care what anyone else thinks, medieval coins are just as awesome as ancients. Sure, they don't have no fancy realistic designs or high relief like many ancients, but they are extremely cool in their own way. Everyone needs at least a dozen medievals in their collection. Two or three dozen is even better.
     
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  10. Magnus Maximus

    Magnus Maximus Dulce et Decorum est....

    Shows how ignorant of this time period I am, I thought Bohemund was a Norman. Turns out his family is from Aquitaine, not Normandy:shifty:
    How about a coin from a ruler of Norman descent: Edward II
    Edward II silver penny
    Struck at London
    1307-1327 CE
    IMG_1644.JPG
    This was an awesome gift from a friend awhile back.
     
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  11. Sallent

    Sallent Live long and prosper

    You want Norman descent?

    Henry III
    Henry III Voided Long Cross Penny Walter Canterburry.jpg

    If you knew how much I spent on this coin, you'd puke, but it has a solid pedigree that cannot be matched. It was owned by the man who literally wrote the entire catalog on English coins, as well as some of the most prominent English collectors and dealers of the 20th century.

    I think the dealer marked it intentionally high thinking no morron is going to pay it and he can keep it in his collection. Well, he didn't count on this morron from South Florida.
     
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  12. Pishpash

    Pishpash Well-Known Member

    Oh bless you Sallant, your posts really are a treat to read :D
     
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  13. spirityoda

    spirityoda Coin Junky

    how much did you pay ??? curious here.
     
  14. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    I always think those coin-types look cool ...

    => congrats on your OP-addition, lawyer (I like it)

    :rolleyes:
     
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  15. FitzNigel

    FitzNigel Medievalist

    No shame in suspecting Bohemond was from Normandy since the normans would establish the principality of Antioch. The normans sure got around though - here's my William II from Norman Sicily:

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    Kingdom of Sicily
    William II, r. 1166-1189 A.D.
    Messina Mint, AE Follaro, 17.23mm x 1.7 grams
    Obv.: + OPERATAT IN VRBE MESSANE outside, O / REX W / SCOVS in center (OV ligate)
    Rev.: Arabic legend "al'malik / Ghulyalim / al-thani" (King William 2nd) in center, "bi-amr al-malik al-musta'izz" around edge
     
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  16. Orfew

    Orfew Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus

    As a fan of Shakespeare's plays I have to post this coin of Henry V.

    Henry V S. 1785.jpg
     
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  17. Parthicus

    Parthicus Well-Known Member

    Very cool! Medieval European coin portraits usually leave me cold, but when it's a Crusader in helmet and chain mail, with a big cross on his forehead, I can't complain.
     
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  18. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    More famous last words ;). Congrats on neat Crusader pickup!
     
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  19. Quant.Geek

    Quant.Geek Well-Known Member

    Those impulse purchases are the best ones! Have that problem all the time, especially when I am browsing CNG :rolleyes:. Those helmeted coins are always fun to collect as it reminds me of the bygone era of Knights and Chivalry. Here is mine that I "impulse purchased" a while ago, even though my wallet said NO!!!:

    Crusaders: Bohémond III (1163-1201) AR Denier, Antioch (Metcalf, Crusades-378)

    Obv:+ BOAИVHDVS, helmeted and mailed head left; crescent before, star behind
    Rev:+ AИTI:OCHIA, cross pattée; crescent in second quarter

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  20. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

    @Sallent just tell yourself that the new year starts November 1. You held your promise.

    As for these helmeted knight coins, I have always thought that the potrait looks like a duck, especially with that crescent in front.
     
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  21. Sallent

    Sallent Live long and prosper

    Wow. That is a rare one indeed. The dies must have been minty fresh and you got the coiner at the beginning of the day before he got drunk on his ration of beer. I've never seen one so perfect.
     
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