Unidentified silver coin (probalby quitly old) - with fotogallery

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  1. stromokocur

    stromokocur Junior Member

    Hi,

    I have a coin (probably made from silver) which I am not able to identify. It is striked on one side only.

    Full size image gallery you can find at:

    http://www.tuzvo.sk/~matej/coin/

    Thanks for you opinions.
    Regards,

    Jaroslav Matej
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  3. satootoko

    satootoko Retired

    Hi Jaroslav. I can welcome you to the forum, but I'm afraid I can't give you any help on your question. We do have a lot of knowledgeable folks here, so you probably will get an answer.
     
  4. Ian

    Ian Coin Collector

    That one has me beat.

    First, I doesn't look like silver to me. Second, the lettering used on the item looks far too modern for it's over all appearance. Third, whatever else it may be i'm pretty sure that it isn't a coin.

    I can't quite make out whether the legend reads `SERGE: DE: BOIS' or `SERCE: DE: BOIS' (or indeed something else?).

    It would perhaps help to know how you came upon it and where?
     
  5. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Not a clue :confused:

    The French have struck some coins with palm tree designs - but none quite like that. Although the name De Bois does fit.
     
  6. stromokocur

    stromokocur Junior Member

    OK. I am not expert in coins. It looks like silver if I scrape it in an edge. Whether it is coin or not I do not know, but it looks like a coin from some wrecked ship. But why it is striked on one side only ... ? Or is it some imitation only ?

    J.Matej
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  7. stromokocur

    stromokocur Junior Member

    I found it in a small collection of my grandfather, so an ancestry of coin is unknow.
     
  8. stromokocur

    stromokocur Junior Member

    Or is it a jetton from wrecked ship ?
     
  9. pcrdnadave

    pcrdnadave Senior Member

    OMG, Gasp! :eek:
     
  10. Ian

    Ian Coin Collector

    All I know with any degree of certainty is that it is not a coin.

    It may indeed be some type of token but most jetons / tokens have two sides to them. It could be some kind of seal (?) or an advertising token(?) or even a button(?). To be honest, I just don't know and i'd be pushing it to say any more than I have as i'm at the limit of my knowledge on that one. Sorry :(

    Ian
     
  11. satootoko

    satootoko Retired

    If it had been a coin you would have just devalued it by 75-95%! :( :( :(
     
  12. stromokocur

    stromokocur Junior Member

    Ufff.... it is not good. I thing now there is not reason to spend time in this thread.

    Thanks for your opinions.
    MJ
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  13. the_highlander

    the_highlander New Member

    That looks to me to be a roman or greek coin, it would help if you can tell what the inscription is.
     
  14. stromokocur

    stromokocur Junior Member

  15. satootoko

    satootoko Retired

    Between Babelfish and the Merriam-Webster dictionery it appears that "serge de bois" means a fabric with a particular kind of weave made from wood. :confused:
     
  16. the_highlander

    the_highlander New Member

    well im working hard on this one

    what i gather so far is as satoot said

    boise is french for wood

    i believe also this is correct cause the coin clearly seems to be showing a wood on it.

    so so far as ive gathered this coin/token is from france and is the name of a town on it serce /serge being the town

    serce de bois

    im trying to see if there is a town with that name and this would get it nearer to identifying, though the town is probably long gong from initial searches i need to look for historical towns.

    will keep you informed
     
  17. the_highlander

    the_highlander New Member

    Serce Limani

    was an 11th century shipwreck off the coast of france,a lot of coins were brought up from this maybe theres a chance this could be a trading token of some kind ?, which was brought up from the shipwreck


    still searching


    do you have idea of the metal the coin is made from this may help a bit
     
  18. the_highlander

    the_highlander New Member

    ok from all i can gather and looking at the coin more i believe it says serge de bois

    which is basically a forest

    like bills forest

    its serge de boise

    serge forest ie wooded area


    i can find no-where any mention of this woodland so i assume it now dont exist.also because of this name it seems this is not a coin but a token.

    so as far as ive got is this
    have you got a picture of the other side and any inscription on that this would greatly help identifying too.
     
  19. Ian

    Ian Coin Collector

    original post states :

    "I have a coin (probably made from silver) which I am not able to identify. It is striked on one side only." ;-)

    My first thought when I saw the item was that it was possibly a token issued by someone called Serge de Bois, but the french surname is usually `du' (of the) as opposed to `de' (of).

    That is, if it were concerning an individual it would be `Serge du Bois'. So, I don't think it relates to an individuals full name or title, although `Serge' is a common christian name in France.

    I then thought that it might be a place name as in `Serge's Wood'. Now if it were, it could relate to some sort of park area in France or some kind of plantation token(?) From where, when and in relation to what.....that's the question. The trees on the item do not look to be native to France, so it could be Caribean or Micronesian (eg Vanuatu or Tahiti)...or anywhere in between.

    However, it could also equally be a button from a pair of corduroy trousers. It certainly doesn't look to have been made from silver to me, that's for sure and in terms of it's value.........well, absolutely priceless!! ;-)

    Ian
     
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    PaulC New Member

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    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    12 year old thread. Most of the participants haven't been seen in a year of Sundays....
     
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