New Follis

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Pishpash, Nov 1, 2016.

  1. Pishpash

    Pishpash Well-Known Member

    I love these hefty bronzes. I didn't have a left facing Chlorus so had to have this one.
    Constantius I 20160076 obv.jpg Constantius I 20160076 rev.jpg
    Constantius I
    Denom Follis
    Size/Weight 25mm 10.66g
    Bronze
    CONSTANTIVS NOB CAES
    laureate head left
    GENIO POPVLI ROMANI
    Genius standing left, modius on head, naked except for chlamys over left shoulder, holding patera & cornucopiae, B to left, Γ to right TR in ex
    Trier
    Date 296-297 AD
    RIC VI Trier 220a

    I have several of these but all with the GENIO POPVLI ROMANI reverse.

    Post any follis you like.
     
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  3. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Nice, don't see the left ones often.

    My only Constantius I.

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    Constantius I (305 - 306 A.D.)
    Ӕ Post Reform Radiate
    O: FL VAL CONSTANTIVS NOB CAES: Radiate and cuirassed bust right.
    R: CONCORDIA MILI-TVM: Constantius standing facing right receiving Victory on globe from Jupiter standing opposite and holding sceptre, HA in lower centre.
    Heraclea Mint, 295 - 296 A.D.
    22mm
    3.3g
    RIC VI Heraclea 15
     
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  4. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Constantius I 3.jpg
    CONSTANTIUS I
    AE Follis
    OBVERSE: CONSTANTIVS NOB CAES, laureate head right (large head type)
    REVERSE: SALVIS AVGG ET CAESS FEL KART, Carthago standing facing, head left, in long robe, holding fruits in both hands. Mintmark Gamma
    Struck at Carthage 298-299 AD
    7.41g, 28mm
    RIC VI 32a
     
  5. Pishpash

    Pishpash Well-Known Member

    Nice Bing, I forgot I had this one, different legend
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    Constantius I (Caesar)
    Coin: Bronze Follis
    CONSTANTIVS NOB CAES - Laureate head right
    FELIX ADVENT AVGG NN - Africa standing to left in elephant headdress, holding standard and tusk, lion with captured bull at feet.
    Exergue: [​IMG][​IMG][​IMG]
    Mint: Carthage (297 AD)
    Wt./Size/Axis: 9.76g / 27mm / -
    References:
    • RIC VI Carthage 22a
    @Mat I haven't seen any before, not that I was looking, but rated Common.
     
  6. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    Really nice strike and style!!! Mine is nowhere near the quality but is a Trier left Diocletian.
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  7. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    Left-facing Constantius I? Nice!... and now I need one too :).

    A regular rightie...

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  8. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Really? Seen a few on ebay over the years but I never bothered with them Usually went for $60 to over $100+. My coin was $12 shipped last year & I am content with it.
     
  9. Pishpash

    Pishpash Well-Known Member

    @Mat, I have only been collecting for just over 3 years, I have a lot to catch up on.:D
     
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  10. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    Mat, I'm seeing a HA field mark rather than H Gamma.
     
  11. Smojo

    Smojo dreamliner

    Here is one I got from JA a while back. Don't think I've posted it before.

    Constantine I
    AE follis, 19mm, 2.5g, 12h, Trier 332/3AD
    CONSTAN-TINOPOLIS; helmeted bust left wearing imperial mantle
    Victory standing left with spear and shield
    TRS-☆
    Ref. RIC VII 548, p. 217
    Obv.ConstantineCommem.jpg Rev.Const.Comm2.jpg
     
  12. Smojo

    Smojo dreamliner

    A more recent but a little rough.

    Constantinus I
    AE follis, 19mm, 3.0g, Thessalonica
    306-337 AD
    CONSTANTINVS AVG; Laureate head right
    PROVIDENT IAE AVGG; Campgate •SMTSA center exergue, 2 turret, ☆ above center, 1 • right field
    RIC 153
    20161014_185954.jpg 20161014_185855.jpg
     
  13. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    Very nice @Pishpash !!!

    I only have a couple of the right-facing examples...and my best is the 'Genio' type that so many of us have (an old practice photo that needs an up-grade LOL):
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  14. Smojo

    Smojo dreamliner

    No "GINIO", thought I had a couple atleast one.
    @Mikey Zee, I have several old pics that need re done. To many. Tough break today I was hoping you would win (had in watch) thought about it myself. I got beat as well:arghh:
     
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  15. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    @Pishpash - EXCELLENT job getting the Left Facing guy!

    I have an unusual one as a QUINARIUS (harder to find)

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    RI Constantius I Chlorus 293-306 CE DIVO AE Quinarius Thesalonika 317-318 Seated RIC VII 25 R5 RARE O-R.JPG


    And a regular 'ole grungy Righty Follis...

    RI Constantius Chlorus 293-306 CE AE18  Folles 2 soldiers 2 standards Obv-Rev.jpg
    RI Constantius II AE18 Folles 2 soldiers 2 standards Obv-Rev.jpg
     
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  16. Magnus Maximus

    Magnus Maximus Dulce et Decorum est....

    Nice one, Pish.
     
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  17. gsimonel

    gsimonel Well-Known Member

    "And a regular 'ole grungy Righty Follis...

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    RI Constantius Chlorus 293-306 CE AE18 Folles 2 soldiers 2 standards Obv-Rev.jpg"

    This is Constantius II, the grandson of Constantius I Chlorus.
     
  18. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Thank you for your clarification.
     
  19. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    solid coin pish! i don't have a constantius i that is suitable for public display, but here is one of his one time lady helena.

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    Helena, Mother of Constantine I. AE Follis, 325-330 AD

    O: FL HELENA AVGVSTA, Pearl-diademed and mantled bust right, wearing necklace. R:SECVRITAS REIPVBLICE, Securitas standing left, holding branch pointing down; ∙ΓSIS in ex., Siscia mint, RIC 204. 20 mm, 2.6g
     
  20. Pishpash

    Pishpash Well-Known Member

    Great Helena, I have a couple of fairly grotty ones.
     
  21. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    This thread highlights a situation that come up here rather regularly that may bother some people and not others. We post photos of coins. It can be hard to tell the difference between large coins and small coins from the photos we post. Pishpash started this thread showing a 'follis' of the size used by the first Tetrarchy under Diocletian which tend to be 25+mm and 10+g. Unfortunately 'follis' means rather little more than 'coin'. Before long fractions of folles were discontinued and the only coins issued were closer to 2g than anything else. We have no idea what the Romans called them but collectors keep the name follis until we get the Fel Temp Reparatio series in the late 340's.

    We do have a convention to avoid the situation. Collectors call coins over AE1 = over 25mm; AE2 = 21-25mm; AE3 = 17-21mm and AE4 = under 17mm. Pishpash's OP was and AE follis. I hope all beginners that see this thread realize the OP comment
    referred to the 10+g 'hefty' coins not the under 2g 'blow away in the wind' versions. Diocletian improved the monetary system with his reform giving us the big follis. What he had in mind was definitely what the Roman world saw happen in a very few years. I wish we would start new threads to show coins not related to the theme of the OP rather than piling anything and everything on as we tend to do. Can we make our threads a bit more educational to beginners who stumble upon our postings?
     
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