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Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by steve.e, Oct 28, 2016.

  1. steve.e

    steve.e Cherry picker

    We have all heard the term not all whisky Is bourbon but all bourbon is whisky. How bout not all errors are doubled dies but all doubled dies are errors. Thoughts?
     
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  3. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    Sure... I suppose it works, so whatever floats your boat.
     
  4. steve.e

    steve.e Cherry picker

    What is it in your opinion are doubled dies errors
     
  5. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    Were they meant to be? No, so in the most technical sense they're "errors". However, they're best described as varieties.
     
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  6. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    I've never considered a doubled die an error ....more so a variety . Errors are broadstrikes, off center strikes, clips, lamination , wrong platchet, etc... never drink bourbon either.......Vodka and Tequila now you're talking.
     
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  7. steve.e

    steve.e Cherry picker

    I get it but, no two dies are the same therefor every die produces a different variety. doubled dies are dies that are rotated on the hub in error. Therefor we must accept that doubled dies are errors. Three legged bison nickel error or variety?
     
  8. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    This. Doubled dies are varieties, as defined by being things on the die which are created before the strike. Errors are a function of the strike itself and the manufacturing process.

    You just go ahead and leave all the bourbon for me, Paddy, and I'll leave you the vodka. Perhaps later we can cooperate with the tequila. :)
     
  9. alurid

    alurid Well-Known Member

    The "things" on the dies which are created before the strike are part of the manufacturing process. Therefore all varieties are errors, they just have a higher mintage count. As apposed to machine strike errors, which are of the rare variety type. All can be attributed to human error.
     
  10. Evan8

    Evan8 A Little Off Center

    BLASPHEMY!!!:eek:
     
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  11. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    Tell you what I'll match you shot to shot and we'll see who's the last man standing. :)
     
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  12. Evan8

    Evan8 A Little Off Center

    You may regret that lol. Im not an alcoholic or anything (they go to meetings:woot:) but ive built up quite the tolerance. But hey as long as i can drink Bulleit, im game for anything lol. And ive got a bit of a head start.
     
  13. alurid

    alurid Well-Known Member

    Bourbon, Whiskey, Tequila, Vodka, All just different varieties of an error.
     
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  14. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    Here's a tip.....Paddy is "Irish" has never ever been put under the table drinking ! Not in HS, not college, not at any time in 62 years! Many have tried none have succeeded .
    There's only one thing I won't drink......gin ! That's nothing more then swill!
     
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  15. steve.e

    steve.e Cherry picker

    Is this a drunken discussion I knew I should have posted earlier
     
  16. steve.e

    steve.e Cherry picker

    A very valuable error
     
  17. Cascade

    Cascade CAC Grader, Founding Member

    There has to be a line in the logic sand and paddy and Dave have given the line drawn by today's widely accepted standards.
     
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  18. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    I believe that SuperDave described the difference between the two very precise ,especially in numismatics terms. You can refer to them however you like but Dave's description is what the rest of us collectors refer to as the difference between the two.
     
  19. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    That's the way NGC defines the terms specifically, and I've always gone their way with this definition. Not that they're the only institution which holds to it - pretty much all of them do - but that's where I read it first. :)
     
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  20. Dave M

    Dave M Francophiliac

    And not only coins, but banknotes, stamps, etc - the general distinction between "variety" and "error" is consistent to this.
     
  21. Evan8

    Evan8 A Little Off Center

    Nothing wrong with gin. Just tastes like you are sucking on pine tree
     
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