Question about Morgan mint errors

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Barney McRae, Jul 21, 2024.

  1. Barney McRae

    Barney McRae Well-Known Member

    How does a TPG grade a coin partially struck through grease? Does it affect an otherwise near flawless coin's grade and does ANACS attribute these errors? I thought about going to the error forum but Morgan dollars aren't exactly common coins.
     
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  3. JAY-AR

    JAY-AR Well-Known Member

    ANACS does attribute these errors, and I don't believe it affects the grade. I have several with strike through errors with higher grades. Hope this helps:)
     
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  4. Barney McRae

    Barney McRae Well-Known Member

    Thank you sir.
     
  5. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    Ya, know when I first started here we had some of the best Vamers here on CT. Most disturbances in the field are die wear. Don't spend much time on trying to identify die disturbances. The evidence is there, or it isn't.
     
  6. Barney McRae

    Barney McRae Well-Known Member

    The one I'm referring to is some kind of odd. I'll reveal in a day or so, there's a reason I'm holding off. I'm sure you can guess why the wait.
     
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  7. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    Get a Photo.
     
  8. KBBPLL

    KBBPLL Well-Known Member

  9. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    I believe the TPG’s still do but it basically cost prohibitive for a struck through grease. Other strike through scan be worth the price. Can’t wait to see your coin.
     
  10. Neal

    Neal Well-Known Member

    I, also, would like to see your coin.
     
  11. The Half Dime

    The Half Dime Arrows!

    I have seen on eBay where people list struck-through coins that straight grade, but I have no idea about a Morgan dollar.

    It appears that with the grease error Morgans, the companies go off the amount of remaining detail. It looks to be this because one particular grease error (PCGS MS63) has been struck through on the neck, but the hair details are still there.
     
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  12. charley

    charley Well-Known Member

    The question is:

    Why consider it is a Mint "Error"?

    Explain in 10 words or less.
     
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  13. Barney McRae

    Barney McRae Well-Known Member

    Defective coin missed by inspectors and released to the public.

    I saved photos and will post either tonight or tomorrow. I'm not 100% positive but I may take a chance on it at the right price. I don't think the seller even realizes it.
     
    Last edited: Jul 22, 2024
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  14. KBBPLL

    KBBPLL Well-Known Member

    It's not on the die and occurred during the strike.
     
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  15. charley

    charley Well-Known Member

    How is it defective?
    The coin can not be used in commerce? The coin can not be identified?
    Or?

    Truth in editing: added a "t" where appropriate.
     
  16. charley

    charley Well-Known Member

    How do you know? How would it make it an "error"?
     
  17. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    They should note the error on the slab but the coin should be graded without regard to it.
     
  18. KBBPLL

    KBBPLL Well-Known Member

    The subject is a struck through grease error, Charley. The TPG can tell and designates them as an error. Or was this also supposed to be 10 words or less?
     
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  19. charley

    charley Well-Known Member

    How does this definitively make the coin an "error"? Because a TPG engaged in the business of opinions and making a market to interest more collectors by designating the coin in that manner and thereby creating an artificial worth?

    Exactly how can any person/entity "tell"?
     
  20. KBBPLL

    KBBPLL Well-Known Member

    You can tell that a coin is struck through grease, same as struck through some other object. I don't consider them valuable but others might. It's helpful for it to be designated, otherwise someone might question why it got MS63 when an entire word is missing on the coin, etc. Surely you know this, so I'm not sure why you want to debate it.
     
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  21. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    I'm curious to see where you're going with this. If those are your criteria for "mint error", you're excluding a large class of widely-accepted errors -- not only strike-throughs, but brockages, multiple strikes, planchet defects, and plenty more. Such a definition might be self-consistent, but it doesn't seem especially useful, does it?
     
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