View attachment 1630371 View attachment 1630366 View attachment 1630367 Hey guys so I have a couple of mint sets and I believe I found a DDO quarter but it’s really hard to tell with it still in the plastic light just bounces off so I’m looking for opinions if it’s the double die or just machine doubling?
That is not a Doubled Die variety. BTW - The correct numismatic terminology is Doubled Die, not double die.
You’ve been a member for 5 years plus. You confirm suspected doubling at Wexler or VV. If not listed there you have die deterioration, mechanical doubling or PMD, in all likelihood…imo…Spark
John Wexler’s website: doubleddie.com. So 5 years later someone finally suggested Wexler to you. Go to the site and read everything…imo…Spark …and yes, VV means Variety Vista.
I don’t use the site hardly ever unless I see something I don’t know about, and I usually don’t find anything resembling double dies, just a lot of laminations and RPM and stuff like that, so yeah I guess it took 5 years lol, thanks for the help
Write it over and over again until you eventually remember. It's not double die.. Doubled Doubled Doubled Doubled Doubled Doubled Doubled Doubled
Try this, The DIE IS NOT DOUBLED. It only strikes the planchet to make the coin. IT’S THE COIN THAT’S DOUBLED. Not a single coin has ever been found that’s double. No one has ever found a double die coin. This is because the die is not double. It only creates doubled coins from the die striking the planchet twice. That’s why they are called DOUBLED DIE coins. Hope this helps.
A little unclear on what you're saying, here. In a doubled die, the hub is doubled, and that's imparted to the die. The doubled die has only to strike the planchet one time to impart the doubling to the coin.
Not correct. I don't really understand what either of you is saying. Most typically the working die is doubled, not the hub. The die is pressed into the hub, annealed, then pressed again, up to 9 or 10 times according to Wexler, and if there is a misalignment the die gets doubled. It is not from the planchet getting struck twice. https://doubleddie.com/58222.html Saying "double die" imparts the idea that there are two dies, or that the coin is struck more than once, or whatever. Doubled die accurately describes what it actually is, two (or more) slightly offset impressions of the design on the die. Every coin made by that die will be doubled. Working hubs created from master dies can also be doubled, because they are also pressed the same way but in reverse. In that case, every working die made from that working hub will be doubled, and the resulting coins relatively common. Even the master die could be doubled when creating it from the master hub, and then every working hub and working die would also be doubled, as well as every coin made from those dies. If there was only one master die for the year and it was doubled during hubbing, every coin that year would be a doubled die.
This is true. Basically it could come from the hub or die. It could initiate on the master hub. It could initiate on the master die. It could initiate on a working hub formed from a master die.
https://doubleddie.com/58285.html describes how the master hub gets doubled by the reduction lathe. Fascinating. I never knew that Lincoln cents had obverse master hub doubling from the 1930s into the 1950s.