1876 gold one dollar proof?

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  1. sel

    sel New Member

    So I've been collecting coins since I was 12 seriously going to meetings and unfortunately to pay for college I had to sell a lot of my collection I have a few coins I've saved that are raw and I was wondering if you think I should get them slabbed ? Do you think this might be a proof??? I know they are very rare it came from a very good old collection all purchased before 1950
     

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  3. mikenoodle

    mikenoodle The Village Idiot Supporter

    It doesn't look like a proof to me, but the best way to tell is to look at the rims. They should be squared off, not rounded.
     
  4. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    Welcome to the forum.

    It doesn't look like a proof, in fact not even unc.
     
  5. messydesk

    messydesk Well-Known Member

    I agree that it's not a proof. It still may be worth certifying, however, as it will be much easier to sell. What other coins do you have that you are considering having graded?
     
  6. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    Agreed; there should be detail at the top of the headdress and bottom of the hair which isn't present. Seems as if the coin has circulated.
     
  7. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Not a proof. Looks like au-50, maybe 55. Not one of my specialties but it shows definite signs of wear.
     
  8. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    Almost looks polished or whizzed to me. I would definitely send it for authentication. Just my opinion.
     
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  9. mikenoodle

    mikenoodle The Village Idiot Supporter

    Wear does NOT disqualify the coin as a proof. Proof is a method of manufacture, not a condition. There are many proof coins with wear, they just grade under PF-60
     
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  10. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank


    Agreed, but still not a proof.
     
  11. mikenoodle

    mikenoodle The Village Idiot Supporter

    I know... I agree with you. just setting the record straight on diminished proofs.
     
  12. jwitten

    jwitten Well-Known Member

    His statement did not mean the 2 correlated. So he could have been saying 2 things, in other words. 1) Not a proof. 2) AU condition.
     
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  13. mikenoodle

    mikenoodle The Village Idiot Supporter

    that may well be true, but a proof coin that has signs of wear is graded PF-50, not AU
     
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  14. Santinidollar

    Santinidollar Supporter! Supporter

    Somewhere, I wish I could remember where, I saw a coin, (I believe it was a Morgan) slabbed and graded PF-5 (that is not a typo).
     
  15. messydesk

    messydesk Well-Known Member

    There are some 1895 Morgans graded PR6 and PR8.
     
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  16. mikenoodle

    mikenoodle The Village Idiot Supporter

    There are people who actively search for low-end certified coins (including proofs). They are generally referred to as "everyman sets".
     
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  17. jwitten

    jwitten Well-Known Member

    Which is probably why he said not proof, looks au50.
     
  18. mikenoodle

    mikenoodle The Village Idiot Supporter

    and you're right. I did mis-read his original post. His assessment was accurate.

    I think I had OP's post on the brain.
     
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  19. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    ???????? o_Oo_Oo_Oo_Oo_Oo_O I said NOT A PROOF and IT SHOWS SIGNS OF WEAR. And there is no need to set the record straight, except that it's NOT A PROOF!!
     
  20. micbraun

    micbraun coindiccted

    Check this out: https://www.ngccoin.com/coin-explorer/gold-dollars-1849-1889-pscid-54/1876-g1-pf-coinid-17626

    Mintage = 45
    NGC certified = 17 coins, 16/17 are CAM/UCAM

    I know pictures can be deceiving, but your dollar really doesn't look like a proof coin: No reflective fields and a weakly struck O and 8.

    Diagnostics for a 1876 proof:
    - no rust pit on neck
    - some extra outlines on UNI of UNITED
    - die file mark through base of A towards M
    (Source: official Red Book, Bowers)
     
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  21. fish4uinmd

    fish4uinmd Well-Known Member

    As Koothrappali would say...shut your A**!
     
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