Septimius Severus, Odd COS II obverse legends

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by maridvnvm, Oct 18, 2016.

  1. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    There are a bunch of COS II legend varieties from Emesa that have shortened elements in the obverse legend. I am always on the lookout for these as they often go unnoticed by sellers and buyers alike. We tend to fill in the gaps and see what we think should be there.

    The usual obverse legend is "IMP CAE L SEP SEV PERT AVG COS II" with the bold letters being ones that disappear.

    My favourite obverse die of these shortened legends is responsible for getting me hooked on these eastern issues. I now have four reverses linked with this obverse.

    Septimius Severus denarius

    Obv:– IMP CA L SE SEV PER AG COS II, Laureate head right
    Rev:– FORT REDVC, Fortuna standing left, holding long scepter & cornucopia
    References:– RIC -. BMCRE -. RSC -.

    3.17g, 18.54mm, 0o

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    Rev:– FORT REDVC, Fortuna standing left, holding rudder & cornucopia
    References:– RIC -. BMCRE -. RSC -.

    2.40g, 18.83mm, 0o

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    Rev– LIBER AVG, Liberalitas standing left, holding abacus in right hand, cornucopiae in left
    Reference:– BMCRE -. RIC - RSC -.

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    And my latest addition.

    Rev:– MART-I V-ICTORI, Mars advancing right carrying spear and trophy.
    Reference:– cf. BMCRE 378 note. cf RIC 406b. RSC 324e. (all citing Cohen 324 - Kholl)

    3.16 gms. 0 degrees

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    This last coin is a reverse die match to another example I have from a different obverse die which also has shortened legends

    Obv:–IMP CA L SE SEV PER AVG COS II, laureate head right
    Rev:– MART-I V-ICTORI, Mars advancing right carrying spear and trophy.
    Reference:– cf. BMCRE 378 note. RIC 406b. RSC 324e. (all citing Cohen 324 - Kholl)

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    I know that Doug has a wonderful example of the first obverse die above with a MINER VICTRIC reverse. There are a few others I have spotted over the years but they were obviously spotted for what they were.

    Martin
     
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  3. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    OK, I'll ask the obvious question: Any speculation as to why those 'bold' letters are missing?? Style, error or just spacing requirement---or a combination of all three??
     
  4. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    There are a variety of thoughts. Maybe a separate mint, maybe even a travelling mint. We simply don't know.
     
  5. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    Ancient numismatics is often a popular hobby with theoretical physicists. In both fields "I don't know" is usually the most nearly correct answer. That does not stop us from fabricating proposals that address certain situations but the only universal truth is that anyone who thinks he has all the answers most certainly does not understand the questions.
     
  6. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    We can gather snippets of information. We can develop bodies of information through study and dies analysis. Mainly it comes down to thoeries and hypothesis.

    Given that the mint records don't exist then much of what we guess will likely be wrong.
     
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  7. ancientone

    ancientone Well-Known Member

    I really like this portrait of Severus better than most.
     
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