Missed out on a great coin

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by TypeCoin971793, Oct 16, 2016.

  1. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

    I'm sure many of you can empathize with me on this. I have been wanting an early posthumous Alexander Tetradrachm from the Babylon mint, and I found this excellent example up for auction. I bid up to my max, and I even extended a little, but someone with deeper pockets outbid me. Had I the money, I would have bid to win, but oh well...

    At least I have a couple want list items I can buy now that the cash has been freed up.

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  3. TJC

    TJC Well-Known Member

    It is nice one with high detail. I can see why you are a little bummed out. But don't worry another one will come along.
     
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  4. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    There's ALWAYS another.
     
  5. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes?

    That is a nice one, too bad.

    How would you define "early posthumous"? What timeframe exactly are you looking at?
     
  6. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

    323-290 BC
     
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  7. Deacon Ray

    Deacon Ray Well-Known Member

    It's painful to come so close to reaching a goal and then have something prevent it from happening. Like my Mom used to say to me "You lost out because there's a better one coming with your name on it." Those weren't her exact words but they convey the essence of what she was trying to tell me.
     
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  8. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

    Maybe I'll have money when the next one comes along.
     
  9. Valentinian

    Valentinian Well-Known Member

    This is true. Not only that, there will be attractive types you weren't even looking for when you didn't win the coin you wanted. I have been underbidder too many times to count, but that did not slow me down for long.
     
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  10. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    Sorry you lost out on that TET---it's a beauty.....but the great part about our hobby is there are ALWAYS new auctions and even more coins!!
     
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  11. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    You never know when you lose a coin just by how much you lost. You saw this as a generic tet to fill an 'early posthumous' slot. The winner may have just been guy with deeper pockets but it may have been the only variation a specialist in Babylon lacked to enable him to write his book on the coins. He may have been looking for years and bid ten times what you did. It works both ways. I have bid three times what I ended up having to pay for certain coins only to find I was the only person who wanted the thing at all. These are questions we don't often learn completely unless you see that coin offered again by a dealer who actually thought the coin was worth twice what he paid. Then, again, you will have the option of walking away. It is not important which fish ends up on your dinner plate as long as it tastes good.
     
  12. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

    All I know was that I was bidding against someone in a live auction. How high he/she would have gone is unknown to me. It got to the point where I would put myself into financial hardship if I bid more, so I have no regrets about backing off.
     
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  13. Noah Finney

    Noah Finney Well-Known Member

    Too Bad............ :( that is something I would love to have.
     
  14. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

    I got these instead for less than half of the next bid increment.

    AE of Alexander III
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    AE of Philip II (Alexander's father)

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  15. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    Those are attractive 'budget friendly' Bronzes!!!

    I purchased a couple like that as well before 'scoring' a nice but worn Drachm and a couple of less than perfect tets. But I really like them and I didn't have to take out a second mortgage LOL
     
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  16. Sallent

    Sallent Live long and prosper

    Mine is also from the Babylon mint. I've seen mine attributed as being from 305 BCE - 281 BCE, which would be Seleukos I Nikator's period of rule. But with a date that wide I guess you could say it is an early posthumous per your definition, or not early at all. I don't have a time machine to figure out whether it was minted before 290 BCE or just after. That's the problem with a lot of ancients, tons of them fall in the middle of these modern imposed timelines. The ancients didn't know 290 BCE was supposed to be the end of the early posthumous period for Alexander tets, so they kept minting this coin for 9 years past that date..

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  17. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    @TypeCoin971793 , nice AE scores! Well done. I have a few AE's from Alex III and Daddy Phillip II ...fun issues.

    ALEXANDER III

    Tougher to find with an Eagle Reverse... (love Eagles...)
    Makedon Alexander III 336-323 BC AE 16 Eagle Tbolt Crescent O-R.jpg
    Makedon Alexander III 336-323 BC AE 16 Eagle Tbolt Crescent O-R.jpg

    He even struck one with my initials... Brian Alegandron... :)
    Makedon Alexander III 336-323 BC AE 17 Quiver Club O-R.jpg
    Makedon Alexander III 336-323 BC AE 17 Quiver Club O-R.jpg

    Basic Issue... Bow-Quiver-Herakles Club
    Makedon Alexander III 336-323 BC AE 19 Quiver Club O-R.jpg
    Makedon Alexander III 336-323 BC AE 19 Quiver Club O-R.jpg


    PHILIP II:

    He was a BIG Horseman! Way cool... I raised some horses when I was a kid...

    Makedon Philip II 359-336 BC AE 17 Horse Rider green patina O-R.jpg
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    Makedon Philip II 359-336 BC AE 19 Horse Hound O-R.jpg
     
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  18. Andres2

    Andres2 Well-Known Member

    Most collectors want lifetime Tets from Alexander, usually they command higher prices then the posthumous ones. Is the Babylon mint an exception ?
    or simply harder to find.
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  19. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    NICE! I love that Babylon mint short time period for Alex III Lifetime mintage.

    I have a couple different ones that are Lifetimers...
    (In addition I have a Lifetime Tet too...)

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    MAKEDON
    Alexander III. 336-323 BC.
    AR Obol (7mm, 0.51g).
    Babylon mint.
    Lifetime issue
    , struck circa 336-323 BC.
    Obv: Head of Herakles right, wearing lion's skin headdress
    Rev: Club, bow, and quiver; monogram in wreath left, M right.
    Ref: Price 3744.

    And an Alexandrine Lifetime Tet:
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    BABYLONIA, Babylon
    AR Tetradrachm / Stater (or Dishekel)
    Minted ca. 323-328 B.C.
    24 mm, 16.3g
    Obv: Ba’al seated left holding scepter
    Rev: Lion walking left, control mark Г above. (Г - Gamma control mark was minted during Alexander III Lifetime)
    Ref: Ref: BMC Arabia XXII no.1
     
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  20. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    :rolleyes:LOVE the posts guys!!!

    Everyone should have a few of the type:)
     
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  21. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

    I already have a nice lifetime tet. I wanted an early posthumous tet from the Babylon mint because they were struck in the highest relief.

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