Never bid with mobile phone

Dear all,

Unpublished CILICIA. Syedra. Caracalla

it looks like
http://rpc.ashmus.ox.ac.uk/coins/9/1213/
or
http://rpc.ashmus.ox.ac.uk/coins/4/9366/

Reference.
SNG France -; SNG Levante -; SNG von Aulock -; SNG Copenhagen -; BMC -; Asia Minor Coins Online -; apparently unpublished.

Obv: A K M AV ANTΩNЄINOC.
Laureate, draped and cuirassed bust right.

Rev: CVЄΔPЄΩN/ϹΥƐΔΡƐΩΝ
Judgement of Ares by Dike; from l. to r.: Dike standing r., holding sword; Ares standing l., disarmed; Hermes standing l., holding caduceus
or
in centre, Ares standing, facing; to l., Dike standing, facing, head., r.; to r., nude Hermes standing, l., holding caduceus

20.02 gr
34 mm.

Note.
I did bid with my mobile phone while underway on Business trip, with a bad connection, and did bid on this coin, and winning it.
while i was still seeing the coin of Hadrian.


Best,

Eric

 

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So why exactly shouldn't we bid on the mobile phones?

Looks like you did well

 

Thats a nice coin, especially the reverse figures together as the subject.

 

nice BIG provincial with an awesome reverse ...that's a sweet mistake you made there oki!

 

I collect only Hadrian due bad connection i bid on a non Hadrian

 

Holy guacamole! Were you intending to bid on the Syedra Hadrian one lot before this Caracalla?

 

Yes the lot before this one, lucky it was not an aureus

 

Wow Oki, your mobile phone bidding-game sounds exciting!!

It's kinda like bobbing for apples => sometimes you get a sweet winner, but sometimes you chomp on an ol' wormy apple!!



I think you got lucky and scored yourself a shiny Red Delicious!!

... hey, that'll make a great secret Santa give-away, eh?

 

That's a nice coin!

 

nudge...nudge...wink...wink...

 

Now you got to collect Caracalla provincials too

 

Did you pay aureus price? Winning gold for a bronze price is generally considered acceptable.

The line forms in the rear, right Steve?

 

One of those times to be thankful the auction house didn't group provincials with imperials .

Seriously though, I can empathise. Here's my own accidental mobile phone win from last year. I hit the bid button while trying to scroll down the screen .

 

Jeez !!! When you guys screw up you STILL come up with winners LOL

 

I've had the opposite occur, where I've run into connectivity issues with a mobile phone while bidding and come up empty, even though the bidding site said I was winning!

 

This is just a side feature of the new style bidding where absentee biders can change their bids a second before closing knowing what the high bid was 2 seconds before. There was a time we filled out a bid sheet with bids for the lots we found of interest and mailed it in not knowing if we would be successful on one or all. Some dealers would allow you to set a buy limit and stop executing bids when you had been successful to that level. I just found my bid sheet for the Fall 1990 NFA Mail Bid Sale. On it, I bid on eight lots with bids totaling $1000. Then I drew a line and bid on 22 more lots with the instruction that those bids were only to be executed until I had bought a total of $1000 (my limit for that sale). I ended up buying five coins from that sale. One was from the top list and four were from the bargain hunter add ons. NFA honored my bids. I ended up paying only $750 since my bids on the other 17 lots were losers. I am amazed I got what I got and that they put up with me. Looking back, I would have been upset if I had bought the whole $1000 worth and had to leave behind other winners but $1000 was a lot of money in 1990 (as it is today) and I feared success.

I preferred the concept of bidding once and the high bid winning without having someone saying that if someone was willing to pay $100, they would go $105. Some sellers would still reduce bids to one level above the second bid but the ones that did not would sometimes have bid sheets with a box to check if you were willing to raise that bid by some stated percentage. All this went out of style with Internet bidding and people with phones bidding on lots they had no intention of buying. I'm sure the total realization increased when bidding frenzy expanded from the sales room to the world wide web.

Below is the one coin from NFA Mail Fall 1990 (an as of Julia Domna). It was $125 +10% (the then exorbitant buyers' premium level). I still enjoy all the coins I got in that sale. I should have bid higher on some of the loser lots.

 

I wasn't in the hobby in pre-internet days but suspect I would prefer the "modern" way because of the target flexibility it affords.

There is at least one auction house which still offers to execute your absentee bids up to a predetermined maximum aggregate for that sale. G&M? I don't remember. I've only used that feature once.

 

The worst problem whichever way it is done is when the lots close in order. It would be a simple routine to input all the bids including 'if' bids and have the computer calculate whether the if is to be placed or not. As it is, we have to save our money for a late closing lot and not bid too much on an early one even though we might be nowhere close to that late closer so we could have bid heavier on the first lot. General collectors who lose out on their Greek wants can salve their wounds with late Romans but someone who saves too little for a Byzantine goes home with an unused checkbook and no shot at the earlier coins that were passed unnecessarily. Having an unlimited budget would make this a moot point. That is not my situation.

 

Dear Doug,

i think its a fair price 450 euro about 500$
still a lot of money

 

$500 ain't chump-change, but like I stated before, at least the coin is awesome!!

=> oh and it's 34 mm and 20.02 grams!! (it's a big baby!!)

Congrats again, Oki (even if it was accidental)