Cleaned coin prices?

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by BeauCoinCollect, Jul 10, 2007.

  1. What is your opinion on the price of cleaned coins?

    e.g., Coin X - AU50 - $100 / Coin X - AU50/Cleaned - $???
     
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  3. elaine 1970

    elaine 1970 material girl

    cleaning

    bullion value
     
  4. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    beau:
    That is a loaded question.
    1) How cleaned are they? dipped or polished with an eraser.
    2) How scarce are they? Key dates? common= junk silver
    3) How ugly are they? Probably junk silver.
    4) Are you buying or selling? (always a key point).
     
  5. bqcoins

    bqcoins Olympic Figure Skating Scoring System Expert

    coin x in au-50 is worth $100 dollars, but it has been cleaned. How harsh is the cleaning, how old is the cleaning? I have several cleaned coins, some harshly, some lightly,some done very well, some done quite badly. If it is a better date coin or a better condition coin, say au50, I would say a run of the mill dipping should not affect the value by more than 20% of the worth. If the coin has been polished or abraded as with a cleanser, unless it it a rare date, or a semi-key, chances are it is kaput, only worth what someone will pay, which may only be bullion.
     
  6. Didn't realize there were so many variables concerning this question.

    1) Probably polished.
    2) 1895-S
    3) Picture attached:
    4) Lets say selling.

    http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb185/hgraves_2007/1895S-Obverse.jpg
    http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb185/hgraves_2007/1895S-Reverse.jpg
     
  7. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    Nice probably XF = $1100.
    Net = f= $500
    Not much difference, VF= $550.
    (Coin World Coin Values, July, 2007).
     
  8. Cloudsweeper99

    Cloudsweeper99 Treasure Hunter

    If you are buying a cleaned coin, the discount will be fairly small. If you are selling a cleaned coin, it will be worth bullion value. ;)

    Now here is something you might want to try, but not with an 1895s. If you buy a cleaned coin that is maybe EF-AU, carry it around in your pocket with some other coins for 6 months to a year or until it wears down to about VF. This will probably remove most of the effects of the cleaning from the surface. Once toned, you may have a VF that has not been cleaned [sort of].
     
  9. 900fine

    900fine doggone it people like me

    Checking recent auction records is one way to get a price estimate on ANY coin.

    Here's an 1895-S Cleaned Scratched which brought $525... ANACS XF40 net

    http://www.teletrade.com/coins/lot.asp?auction=2340&lot=1665

    Being a "Better date of a popular series" is always a big plus, particularly for "problem" coins.
     
  10. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    I'd agree with the value being around $500, but of it wasn't harshly cleaned that coin would sell for over $1000. However, you have another issue - the coin needs to be authenticated first. The pics are not the best, but based on them the mint mark looks a little suspicious.
     
  11. awozny

    awozny Junior Member

    Silly question

    Hello all,

    I am a newbie to numanistics. I have read quite a bit regarding this hobby of kings. I have a real silly question.

    Why is cleaning bad? Is it because it destroys the history accumulated on the coin? Is it because inevitably damage will be introduced to the coin? or is it something else?

    I have seen people much more knowledgeable than myself state that it drops it down to buillon value. Why? I have no desire to rock the boat I am just trying to understand the mindset. In other types of rarities restoration seems OK. What makes coins different?
     
  12. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Harsh cleaning is considered to be bad becuase it destroys originality.
     
  13. Cloudsweeper99

    Cloudsweeper99 Treasure Hunter

    Cleaning damages the surface of the coin. It gives it a telltale "look."
     
  14. I sent this coin in with 19 other coins that I have to be anthenticated by ANACS about two months ago. Out of 20, 10 came back as cleaned. Grade came back as AU 50 DETAILS CLEANED.

    http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb185/hgraves_2007/1895S-Obverse-ANACS.jpg
    http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb185/hgraves_2007/1895S-Reverse-ANACS.jpg
     
  15. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Then you're in business :thumb:
     
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