Yes Or No, Is there an 1869 over 1868 Indian Head, Repunch ?

Afternoon all,
Working on my Indian Head folder and getting down to the keys. I'm looking for one of the biggies, the 1869 over 1868. Been reading infromation about this one coin and other forums I've looked at question if this is real or, as some have indicated in their claims, that it is really a 1869 repunch. First, any of you have one and want to share a picture that would be great, and what is the story on this elusive piece ?

Thanks

 

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I see a 9 over 9 listed

 

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Indian Head cent expertise requested: 1869/8 (?)

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https://boards.ngccoin.com › topic › 44241-indian-head-...

Jul 5, 2005 — (if you collect Indianhead cents, you know the bulk of 1869 suffer from major corrosion problems.) ... Most likely, the 1868 date was thrown out ..."

 

https://www.indianvarieties.com/flying-eagle-and-indian-cent-die-varieties


https://indiancentvarieties.com/

 

thanks for the information.

 

Lots of reading, thanks Paddy54 for suppling the text for me. Still the 68 over 69 or 69 over 68 enludes us and I believe those who look for the actual coin now believe, that it is a 9 over 9 repunch.
As one op stated, The confusion whether it is an 1869/8 or 1869/69 may be attributed Longacre's doubling from the softness of the working die and the composition of the copper being used by the Mint during this period of time, often making it difficult to distinguish the correct attribution on darker toned and or corroded specimens. (if you collect Indianhead cents, you know the bulk of 1869 suffer from major corrosion problems.) As this variety became recognized as a varient, old collections were scoured for it and in the last few years a few rare examples in high MS grade surfaced and brought to the attention of knowledgeable numismatists who had mint-state examples to study, and they have pretty much agreed the coin is not an overdate, (eliminates the 1869/8), but a repunched date.
Thanks James
So the elusive 1869 over 1868 is a myth? Now think of those collectors, who have the Old Whitman books that have that space. Is there more value to the book itself ? Do you stick the 1869 over 1869 in the spot ?

 

This listing says "Once believed to be an 1869/68", so Heritage at least seems to indicate that it was a myth.
https://coins.ha.com/itm/indian-cen...-/a/1210-3097.s?ic4=ListView-Thumbnail-071515

 

The coin is question is a 9 over 9. When I was collecting a set of Flying Eagle and Indian Cents in the 1960s, it was viewed as a 9 over 8. I purchased one for that set. Today that has been debunked and rejected.

I am actually working on another circulated set in EF and AU. The 9 over 9 is not on my want list. I want a date set only. I have the 1908-S and 1909-S Indian from previous purchases.

 

Guess I got to leave the spot open in my 1960 Whitman that shows that spot for the 1869 Over 1868, or just stick a 9 over 9 in there, other than that the 1909-S is the last.

 

If you are that far along, you are almost done. The heart of the collection runs from 1866 to 1878. All the pieces in that date range are key and semi-key dates. Once you get all of those, the 1909-S is the only real stopper, depending upon the grades you want. The two 1886 varieties are harder than you think.

Looking the Grey Sheet prices, you may as well buy a 1909-S in VF. You don't save save that much by buying anything lower.