Is this PMD?

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  1. SmokinJoe

    SmokinJoe Well-Known Member

    Coin roll hunting...This must be PMD....Yes?
     

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  3. dantheman2745

    dantheman2745 New Member

    From the pic it looks like just a weird toning but i could be wrong

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  4. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    It looks like someone may have wiped it with a cloth that had a solvent of some kind on it.

    Chris
     
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  5. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    Looks like some kind of glue, to me ....
     
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  6. SmokinJoe

    SmokinJoe Well-Known Member

    Thanks Guys....What do you think of the reverse? Especially on the bottom...Seems a little melted or not level.
     
  7. Jwt708

    Jwt708 Well-Known Member

    I might be wrong but I think @Rick Stachowski was talking about the reverse.
     
  8. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    Need better images of the reverse, but I think that gray stuff is epoxy .
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  9. SmokinJoe

    SmokinJoe Well-Known Member

    I just gently washed this coin to see if it was glue on the front, but nothing came off. Also washed the reverse and same thing, nothing came off...I washed it with warm water and dishsoap.
     

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  10. SmokinJoe

    SmokinJoe Well-Known Member

    I just gently washed this coin to see if it was glue on the front, but nothing came off. Also washed the reverse and same thing, nothing came off...I washed it with warm water and dishsoap.
     
  11. SmokinJoe

    SmokinJoe Well-Known Member

    The front I tried to put 2 pictures together so you can see the whole coin, but it did not come out too good
     
  12. Jwt708

    Jwt708 Well-Known Member

    Not sure if you're familiar with epoxy or glue but a gentle washing will not remove either. You would have to use acetone...not saying to do that here.
     
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  13. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    If it is epoxy as Rick said, soap & water won't remove it.

    Chris
     
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  14. SmokinJoe

    SmokinJoe Well-Known Member

    Ok...Thanks guys....I'll get it cleaned some how.
     
  15. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    You seem to be willing to go through an awful hassle for an insignificant recent nickel, but could be a learning experience, and in the long run a good thing.

    That said, I doubt it's epoxy, but wish you luck nonetheless.
     
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  16. SmokinJoe

    SmokinJoe Well-Known Member

    Thanks BooksB4Coins, I most certainly appreciate your assessment of this nickel and my craziness of not letting this nickel go...Of course you are right, but I truly believe it is an error coin and even if it isn't worth much at all, it's still an error coin and that's what I spend 90% of my free time doing....Looking for error coins...So, this bad boy is gonna stay with me....Even if it doesn't want to :rage:...

    I tried with a toothpick to move the "stuff" on the reverse and nothing will move..If you look at the letters " UNITED STATES OF AMERICA" the letters are on top of the
    "stuff"...Not underneath it...Also I think this coin has not traveled around too much as the outer edges are sharp, like a brand new coin would be...Sooner or later I think I will find out what's wrong with it...I will put my Sherlock Homes costume
    on...Maybe that will do it! :pompous:
     
  17. Get Real

    Get Real Active Member

    Craziness? Isn't that the true definition of collecting anything? I also suffer from the same affliction.
    I agree with you on that point. My opinion is that (at least on the Obverse) it is poorly mixed metals. I have to admit that it is somewhat flamboyant compared to other examples of improperly mixed alloys but that is what I believe it to be. The color patterns follow the relief on all of the devices of the coin. It is especially noticeable on all of the lettering and date. For example: look at the letters on "IGWT", see how the shinny properly mixed alloy patterns are on top of the letters as well as in the field below without breaking the pattern. Simply put, the color variations or patterns were there prior to being struck. Hard to believe that something so noticeable passed through several levels of quality control, it should have been noticed prior to going through the punch press.
    The Reverse however is a bit more confusing to me. From the pictures it is hard for me to tell if the separation line is a stain/toning or if in fact it separates two different planes. Is there a height difference from one side of the line to the other or is the field smooth/level?
     
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  18. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    Haha... Very good, sir!

    From what I can see I still respectfully disagree on this being an error, but it's not my coin or my hobby, and in the end really doesn't matter. Kudos to you for doing as you enjoy and blazing your own path. It's too bad more people don't do as you and focus on what they like or enjoy as opposed to what others think when it comes to their own collections. Selling, of course, is a different matter, but is a discussion best saved for another time. ;)
     
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  19. SmokinJoe

    SmokinJoe Well-Known Member

    On the top of the coin on the reverse, where the line begins, I can not feel a difference, but on the bottom where the line is thicker, I can feel a difference between the line and the surface of the coin...I was using a wooden pointed stick used for shish kebabs.

    Yes, Now that you mentioned it,I do see the difference on the obverse on the letters IGWT...
     
  20. SmokinJoe

    SmokinJoe Well-Known Member

    Thank you BooksB4Coins, I can tell you are a person of quality with your feet on the ground.....There should be more people in the world like you Sir...

    I'm 65 years old and grew up in the 60's....I am aware that normal 60's coins are worth face value, but every time I find one, it goes into a big glass jar that I have.
    They might be worth nothing for resale, but they make me remember my growing up days.....Laughing, playing, no cares in the world...at all...
    So, although $$ they are not worth anything but face value....But to me they are worth a lot more than $$...So in the jar they all go...
    Like they say, Money aint everything :)
     
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  21. Get Real

    Get Real Active Member

    That is what I suspected but it is still somewhat puzzling because of the placement being only on the outer parameter of the coin. It is probably a lamination issue due to the improperly mixed alloy but I can't be certain without having it in hand. It is hard to tell from the picture but it looks like there may be some separation just to the right of the Monticello Building. Another thing I see is under the second "U" in "PLURIBUS" there appears to be a small struck through debris or just an air bubble that is pushed in, again hard to tell from the picture but doesn't look like PMD to me.

    As for a value, I haven't a clue! First you would need an EXPERT Authenticate that it is indeed what I think it is and then the difficult part, finding someone willing to pay a premium for it. I am no good at assigning value to anything because everything I own is worth much more to me than they are to others. On that note, I do agree with BooksB4Coins, collect what makes you happy and don't worry about what everyone else thinks. I know I have a lot treasures that would be trash to most others.
     
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