2023 retained cud shield cent

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  1. Gorham_Collector

    Gorham_Collector Specializing in Shield Cents

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  3. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Nice die crack
     
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  4. Dynoking

    Dynoking Well-Known Member

    Good eye. Another coin that I would miss. Your photography is excellent!
     
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  5. Dynoking

    Dynoking Well-Known Member

    We have one for retained cud and one for die crack. Do we have a tie breaker? @paddyman98 ?
     
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  6. Timewarp

    Timewarp Intrepid Traveler

    To me, it's a die crack.
     
  7. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    A die crack looks exactly like your coin. A crack is raised but not straight. A cud must be on the rim and they appear as a blob of metal. Small when they first appear and they grow in size as the die is. Still in use.
     
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  9. Kevin Mader

    Kevin Mader Fellow Coin Enthusiast Supporter

    Cuds on coins considered it a cud. Me thinks they have the sway.
     
  10. Dynoking

    Dynoking Well-Known Member

    Not my coin. It belongs to the OP.
     
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  11. Bill in Burl

    Bill in Burl Collector

    It's a die crack.
     
  12. Gorham_Collector

    Gorham_Collector Specializing in Shield Cents

    Yes but this is a retained cud. So the next stage of it would be yes a cud.
    the two die cracks and connected to the design rim and meet at the ribbon forming an area of the die that is still held in place by the collar but separate from the rest of the die.
    If it got any bigger the cracks it’d prob fall out for sure. Creating a cud.
     
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  13. Gorham_Collector

    Gorham_Collector Specializing in Shield Cents

    Saying it’s a die crack downplays what it really is.
    Bc when we think of die cracks we think of a one measly crack in the die.
    this however has progressed from the die crack stage….into something more from an error collector standpoint.
     
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  14. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Sorry but I’m more old school. I see a die crack that has a small chip on the lower ribbon. I also see a die crack that has split and formed 2 cracks that have reached the rim but have not affected the rim.
     
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  15. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    I just looked at cuds on coins. This is the first thing on their site.
    Cuds-on-coins is designed to be a comprehensive visual database encompassing a wide range of die errors caused by brittle failure. Its original focus was “cuds”, a cud is a marginal die break; an error produced when a piece breaks off the edge of a die and involves the rim and at least a little bit of the adjacent field of design. The database has now been expanded to other types of broken die errors listed in the column to the
     
  16. Kevin Mader

    Kevin Mader Fellow Coin Enthusiast Supporter

    I had to visit Cuds on Coins to see that they created various states (PC pre-cud, RCD retained cud). Of course, before all the specificity it started as a crack and developed into more (and location too).
     
  17. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Yup and at my age that’s why I’m old school. Lol
     
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  18. Gorham_Collector

    Gorham_Collector Specializing in Shield Cents

    Being old school is way in the past. Gotta teach the old dog new tricks and they have to learn it.
     
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  19. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    I hear but I don’t obey. :)
     
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