1,000th Post A Diocletian Tet.

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  1. Smojo

    Smojo dreamliner

    I was pondering what I would make my 1,000 post on CT.
    I'm still waiting on some inbound coins to be delivered. I'm sure the weather on the east coast may slow mail from the other side of the Atlantic.
    I did score a nice coin that's been on my buy list for probably close to a year (since before I got bit by the ancient bug), in JA''s auction this week.
    With that I thought to share a coin I got a couple of weeks ago via JA via JBGOOD. I'm glad I pulled the trigger on this one because I later found out another person was looking at it. Had I waited I would've either lost out or be forced to bid against someone I've grown to consider a friend.

    Likely my favorite emperor. Definitely one I have several types of coins from.

    Diocletian, Tet
    284-305 AD 20mm, 8.1g, 12h
    Alexandria 286/7
    Obv: Laureate, draped, cuirassed bust right
    Rev: Eagle standing facing, head right, wreath in beak. Wings open, between two standards. LA * in upper field
    Curtiss 1974, Milne 4891
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    JA''s photo (I've misplaced my files). If anyone can tell me where to find the symbols I'd appreciate it.

    Feel free to post what you have.
     
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  3. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    Congrats! I take it you're enjoying your time on the Dark Side :). In honour of your 1000th post, here's the coin that has accession number 1000 on my collection spreadsheet.

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    HADRIAN
    AR Denarius. 3.23g, 20.9mm, Rome mint, AD 119-122. RIC 82 var. (bust type); BM 164 note. O: IMP CAESAR TRAIAN HADRIANVS AVG, laureate, draped, cuirassed bust right, balteus (sword belt) strap over shoulder and across chest. R: P M TR P COS III, Concordia seated left, holding patera.
     
  4. Jwt708

    Jwt708 Well-Known Member

    Well I don't have 1,000 coins or a Diocletian tetradrachm but I do have a Diocletian:

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    Dioclectian, AD 284-305
    AE, Follis, 9.8g, 28mm; 1h; Aquelia mint
    Obv.: IMP DIOCLETIANVS PF AVG; laureate head right
    Rev.: SACR MONET AVGG CAESS NOSTR; crescent in left field; VI in right field; Moneata holding scales and cornucopiae
    In Ex.: AQP

    This was my second ancient coin purchase.
     
  5. Ancient Aussie

    Ancient Aussie Well-Known Member

    Congrats Smojo a great coin for your 1000th, like Jwt708 I have a Dioclectian and my third coin purchase. Minted 293-294 AD Siscia,
    2.5 gm, RIC V/11 263. 20160904_102903.jpg 20160904_102937.jpg
     
  6. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    The date on your coin is Ldelta or year four. JA's listing had the date right and included the current best book on the subject by Emmett. It is a nice looking reverse.

    Diocletian, AD 284-305
    Potin tetradrachm, 20mm, 8.1g, 12h; Alexandria, AD 286/7
    Obv.: A K Γ OYA ΔIOKΛHTIANOC CEB, laureate, draped, cuirassed bust right.
    Rev.: Eagle standing facing, head right, wreath in beak, wings open, between two vexilla
    L Δ / * in upper field.
    Reference: Emmett 4039, Curtis 1974; Milne 4891.
    From the Collection of JBGood
     
  7. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Congrats on your milestone post, Smojo!

    This place really gets to be a habit after a while, doesn't it? :D

    Here's my favorite so far of the many Egyptian Diocletians I've accumulated:

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    EGYPT, Alexandria. Diocletian
    year 11 (?), CE 294/5
    tetradrachm, 19 mm, 7.6 gm
    Obv: ΔIOKΛHTIANOCCEB; laureate head right
    Rev: Draped bust of Selene right, crescent before; L IA behind
    Ref: Emmett 4080.11, R5
    The date looks odd, more like L IE rather than L IA. It can't be L IE (year 15) because production of tetradrachms in Alexandria ended in 297. Per Emmett, this reverse was only issued year 11. Could it be and unpublished L IB, with the right side of the B missing? Possibly, but it's probably just a somewhat blundered A.
     
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  8. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Which symbols do you mean?
     
  9. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Great 1000th Post, and great Diocletian TET @Smojo ! Looks great. I only have ONE DIOCLETIAN and that is unusual for such a pivotal Emperor. (AND, it is not a tet.)

    RI Diocletian 284-305 CE AE Folles VOT XX Obv-Rev.jpg
    RI Diocletian 284-305 CE AE Folles VOT XX

    But, since I do not focus on the Empire period of Roman History, "I got it to GOT it!"
     
  10. Pishpash

    Pishpash Well-Known Member

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    Diocletian
    Coin: Bronze Follis
    IMP DIOCLETIANVS P AVG - laureate, cuirassed bust right.
    GENIO POPV-LI ROMANI - Genius standing left, modius on head, naked except for chlamys over left shoulder, holding patera and cornucopiae. B star across fields.
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    Mint: Trier (AD 298-299)
    Wt./Size/Axis: 9.35g / 28mm / -
     
  11. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Smojo => congrats on your 1000th post ...

    Otacilia Severa. Augusta, Æ Sestertius

    AD 244-249
    Secular Games issue., 4th officina. 9th emission of Philip I, AD 248
    Rome mint
    Diameter: 28 mm
    Weight: 15.99 grams
    Obverse: Draped bust right, wearing stephane
    Reverse: Hippopotamus standing right
    Reference: RIC IV 200a (Philip I); Banti 13
    Other:12h … Good VF, dark brown patina, with some red

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    Continuing the tradition of Claudius and Antoninus Pius before him, the celebration of the Secular Games at the end of every century since the founding of Rome culminated during the reign of Philip I, as the city celebrated her 1,000th anniversary in AD 248. The legends on these issues almost exclusively read SAECVLARES AVGG, and feature a similar iconography from previous games, such as the she-wolf suckling the twins, the various wild beasts paraded through the amphitheater, and a cippus inscribed for the preservation of the memory of these events

    ... her hubby as well ...

    Philip-I (Phil the Arab)
    248 BC
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  12. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    MAN! LOVE the Water-Pig on the back of Oticilia's coin! Both are great coins! Well done.
     
  13. Smojo

    Smojo dreamliner

    In the legend there's .like horse shoe, triangle, half a T.
     
  14. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Ummm, I think you're talking about "the date"?

    L ("half a T"), Δ ("triangle")

    ... hmmm, but I don't know what those two other symbols are either ...

    TIF will know

    Oh wait => the eagle has a wreath in its mouth (that's probably the "horse shoe" that you're talking about, eh?) ... and I think that the final symbol is merely a "star"?

     
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  15. Smojo

    Smojo dreamliner

    Yeah Doug I don't or at least can't find the symbols on my tablet so I just left the legend out. I was also going from memory and o viously left Emmitt off
     
  16. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Oh, okay.

    As Doug already posted, here's the legend for your coin. It's often very hard to distinguish the Greek characters on these later Alexandrian tetradrachms. In theory your coin's obverse legend is:

    AKΓOVAΔIOKΛHTIANOCCEB

    A K Γ OVA ΔIOKΛHTIANOC CEB

    AVTOKPATΩP = Imperator
    KAICAP = Caesar
    ΓAIOC = Gaius
    OVAΛEPIOC = Valerius
    ΔIOKΛHTIANOC = Diocletianus
    CEBACTOC = Augustus

    Reverse:

    L Δ = regnal year 4
     
  17. Smojo

    Smojo dreamliner

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  18. Smojo

    Smojo dreamliner

    Yes those symbols I can't find them anywhere, I knew they're Greek, I wasn't very desicriptive sorry. But I'm on a tablet for a little while longer & can't find the Greek alphabet
     
  19. Smojo

    Smojo dreamliner

    @stevex6 I kind of goofed my post that Oticilia was my first silvered ant., several months back. I believe she's been posted before.
    LOVE YOU PIG !!!!!!!!
     
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  20. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    I eyed it myself, but have a ban on Potins in my collection. It's a great coin though, congrats.
     
  21. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Thanks Smojo ... it's actually a hippo (oh, and it's very sensitive)

    :rolleyes:
     
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