These two shooting medals were recently picked up from fellow board member @Zohar444 . Artistically stellar pieces in hand. The 1883 is fully prooflike, but no NGC designation. 1868, 3rd German Shooting Festival (NGC MS64) 1883, 3rd Lower-Austrian Shooting Competition in Baden bei Wien (NGC MS64) Close-up of Bath detail - scandal! (city coat of arms of Baden bei Wien)
Hi all, here's an interesting French medal I have here circa 1919 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cher_Ami
Sometimes, I've had to leaf through the Mitchiner book on jetons, page by page (800 of them!), looking for specimens where I couldn't make out the details. I don't recognize this one. Knowing the legend might help. Chris
I was only able to find two listings for Alfred Borrel that involved carrier pigeons. One, Military Competitive Examination of Carrier Pigeons, dates to 1889, and the other, Carrier Pigeons for the competitions of the "Societes colombophiles" dates to 1894. There are no listings for Alfred Borrel later than 1902. I believe he died in 1904. Chris
I don't have any books on the jetons so I have to rely online. The legend is pretty much unreadable, so that doesn't help. I did see a similar one on Ebay a short while ago described as a "Dolphin" Jeton. It was in better condition than mine and went for a few pounds, so it doesn't look like I have struck it rich (again)!
I bought one of those, but in a 1/2 OZ size a couple of weeks ago and it was in a silver bezel. Gave it to my 11year old who loves pandas. Even the 1/2 OZ is too large for her to wear.
While looking for that Prospector, I ran across a couple of other things This one is in the unusual coin book
Hi Chris, Thanks for the info. I was going by what the seller told me. I prefer awarded medals for the date/name ect. maybe this medal is on the rare side? Borrel passed away 1927 https://translate.googleusercontent...Borrel&usg=ALkJrhhYfnyfvrszsU12GROuFfxsxQsMMg
I was just guessing about the date of his death. I was using my reference set, Biographical Dictionary of Medallists by Forrer. I should have googled his name to find that out. I've been collecting French medals for a very long time, and "rare" is not quite the same when compared to coins. You can't equate value with rarity. It depends on the subject matter more than anything. Most French medals were produced in mintages less than 500 for private mints and mintages less than 1,000 for the Paris Mint. Look at the edge of your medal for the mintmark and metal composition. If there is no mintmark or either a "square" or "triangle", it was produced by a private mint. Also, you will note that the obverse has the name Arthus Bertrand on it. Arthus Bertrand et Beranger was a Paris firm that published medals, decorations, etc. and edited various artistic medals. In other words, Bertrand and Beranger provided the decoration for the reverse of your medal. This was not unusual even for medals from the Paris Mint. As a matter of fact, I have one medal from the Paris Mint in which the same obverse was used with three different reverse designs and one of them is even a plaquette. Chris
Hi again, Chris. Great info. Thanks. I just checked that medal, it has the triangle and bronze stamp on it. I have around 30 or so French medals. I think they are the most artistic and interesting. I really love the marrianne and agricultural medals the best. Would love to see some of your French medals. Here's one with no artist name or mintmark. any idea,s? the seller thinks is was by Roty. Did some research about the Cher. its a department in central socialist France.