NGC XF Tiberius Denarius Lugdunum

Discussion in 'What's it Worth' started by Michael Clarke, Oct 7, 2016.

  1. Michael Clarke

    Michael Clarke Well-Known Member

    I really want one of these but seem hard to find and the price is high with NGC. They want $1365 for this. Maybe I need to slow down and look around for a few months. What do you guys think?

    Tiberius $1365.jpg Tiberius2 $1365.jpg
     
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  3. Ancient Aussie

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  4. Michael Clarke

    Michael Clarke Well-Known Member

    Thanks, I added it to the first post. Are these coins everywhere and I just can't find them? I don't know.
     
  5. Ancient Aussie

    Ancient Aussie Well-Known Member

    You know what I do when I am worried about pricing, I go to CNG archives and see what people are paying for similar quality. If you type in search tribute penny you will see them all.
     
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  6. Ancient Aussie

    Ancient Aussie Well-Known Member

    Its nice but to me it's not XF with the wear on the obverse legend left side, they tend to be in auctions a lot, I was lucky I only paid $200 AU from a French dealer on vcoins. 2015-01-07 01.07.44-6.jpeg
     
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  7. Paul M.

    Paul M. Well-Known Member

    I'd say this is more like a decent VF. I'd look for a better one.
     
  8. Michael Clarke

    Michael Clarke Well-Known Member

    Ancient Aussie - That CNG archives is just great! It's like the PCGS one. I'll be living on that site. The coin I posted looks over priced 400-500 bucks. I have to re-think my spending or I'll have a very small Roman collection.
     
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  9. Ancient Aussie

    Ancient Aussie Well-Known Member

    Happy to help a fellow collector.:joyful:
     
  10. Jwt708

    Jwt708 Well-Known Member

    This is the reality of the slabbed ancients market. I'm not trying to make this a slab bashing thread but find reputable dealers who sell raw and be patient.
     
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  11. Michael Clarke

    Michael Clarke Well-Known Member

    I agree about the slab issue but for a newbie it's almost unavoidable. I've been to the website showing the fakes and there were hundreds of examples. Maybe someday if I'm involved enough and learn to buy raw.

    With this one I'm sure I paid 3x it's true value. I also know I bought the holder more then the coin. In the end my friends will be able to read and understand for themselves what the coin is. I know for sure it's real and can live with the minor lack of quality. Half price of the one I was gonna buy above! lol $660

    Tiberius1 $660.jpg Tiberius2 $660.jpg Tiberius3 $660.jpg
     
  12. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    I thought the slabbed tiberius was a bit overpriced too, but sometimes people do pay far more than market value for a 'plastic NGC'....and simply because a high grade 'Tribute Penny' are both popular and trendy....

    Checking previous retail prices is always a great idea and one can access auctions to go through their archives and then there's Voin and even acsearch ( which now requires a membership fee).

    My lower grade/flawed example of that Tiberius denarius was inexpensive and budget friendly when I first purchased it years ago but I later purchased an AS version as this sellers' photo from Heritage suggests---without paying any 'premium' for the slab:
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  13. Michael Clarke

    Michael Clarke Well-Known Member

    Mikey Zee - Wow! That AS one is nice. On mine if it didn't say - Biblical "Tribute Penny" - on the slab I wouldn't have bought it. My friends are religious types so I'm gonna get a kick out of explaining that to them.

    Know where I can find an NGC Agrippa?
     
  14. Jwt708

    Jwt708 Well-Known Member

    I don't think any of this is true but consider you could always buy one from a trusted dealer and submit it yourself for the plastic. It can't cost $300 to slab, can it? Anyway, best of luck!
     
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  15. Michael Clarke

    Michael Clarke Well-Known Member

    One last question guys. I know I'll take a big lose. But If I buy this Caligula in the photo for the $4500 their asking, could I re-sell it in 5 years or so for $3000?

    Denarius Emperor Caligula $4500.jpg Denarius Emperor Caligula2 $4500.jpg Denarius Emperor Caligula3 $4500.jpg
     
  16. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

  17. dlhill132

    dlhill132 Member

    4.jpg Hi Micheal Clarke, I say yes, slow down, take your time, look at lots of coins and enjoy this hobby. My Tiberius, but no were near 1300 dollars.
    ~Doug H.


     
  18. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan 48-year collector Moderator

    I dunno about $1365, but that's a nice example.

    Before slabbing (yes, I slabbed my 12 Caesars set, and I'm not sorry, so nyah nyah, slabophobes), my "Choice Fine" example set me back somewhere in the mid $200s.
     
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