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Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Sallent, Oct 1, 2016.

  1. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Ahahaha, once again being a dick is your best move, eh?

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    cheers, lawyer

     
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  3. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    I store mine in OPEN 2x2 Saflips (as 2x4 open), and put them into a Littleton Album. The slots are 2x4. I hand write my labels, and all provenance labels are with the Saflip. My Chinese Knive Currency even fits within the album slots. My large 90+ gram coins, Scarabae, etc. are in a larger Saflip, however stored in acid-free boxes. All large docs (Export Docs, Guarantees, Provenance, Certification/Authenticity, etc) are in a file folder.

    With my set up, I have a card stock page between each album page (holds six coins), and you can read each page, flip the page and read the other side and see the coins from each side. (Acid free Cardstock further pads the coin pages and acts as a backing so you see the coin well)... I cannot use the staple flips as many of my coins are either too large, too small, or way too thick. I can get approx 60-80 coins an album, dependent on thickness. Everything PVC free, acid free, and have desiccant pages in the albums. Additionally, I use my rechargeable desiccant cans from my gun safes with my coins. Of course A/C house, so humidity is controlled.

    So far, I love this set up. As @Sallent said, I have no issues with print coming off onto my flips, and no issue with coin residue on the flips. Fairly compact storage for approaching a thousand coins, but virtually all my info is within the flip, with the coin, and within the album.

    For me, Database development is next. Would love ideas. @Carthago got me on Filemaker, which intend to use. But, I also want to post my coins to a public coin site for ready access, as well to share. I know @Bing and several others use FAC (as well as Excel...I like that platform too), @TIF uses another site (sorry, you told me, I forget...), and @Pishpash is a Tantulus lady...
     
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  4. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    Wow, you guys actually organize your coins. I knew I was doing something wrong.
     
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  5. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    LOL, YOU have seen my BULGING albums... do you REALLY think it is organized??? :D
     
  6. Endeavor

    Endeavor Well-Known Member

  7. Paul M.

    Paul M. Well-Known Member

    I'd love to see some pics of this setup. I'm considering using a custom built cabinet for my ancients, but that isn't very portable, and having the coins sit on top of the tags seems to defeat the purpose of of the tags (especially when you have a ton of denarii from the same ruler).
     
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  8. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Will do. Will probly be tomorrow, but I will try to get some pics together. Bunch of trial and errors, until I got to this arrangement. I would love to tray them, but I cannot remember tags to coins as well. I also am beginning to have a larger collection, so having them "out" in a cabinet concerns me a bit. And, I KNOW me, I would definitely drop a tray or two. Thanks.
     
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  9. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    I use ink jet to print my inserts and haven't had problem with ink transferred to the flip for even my oldest ones. I use Saflips, but for some reason started with the 2.5" flips rather than the 2" ones that most seem to use. I've not had any trouble with the flips breaking, even for the well-used ones. I also like that the larger flip size accommodates almost any provenance/dealer tags and even old envelopes that a coin I buy may come with.

    On the other hand, I've come across ink transferred from inserts fairly often on quite a number of dealers' soft PVC flips. And as for flips breaking, I've seen this with some dealers' hard PVC-free (non-Saflip) flips, most often the ones used by Forvm (but usually when they're used for larger coins - sestertii/Alexandrian drachms).
     
  10. Sallent

    Sallent Live long and prosper

    Here is a little show and tell. This is the Greek section of my collection...yes, only 8 coins so far. :( But at least I bought my 9th Greek today. :woot:

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    And as you can see from the rear shot below, the folded tag allows me to display additional crucial information/provenance/notes, etc., as well as the collection name.

    One further benefit is that the tags from previous provenance is tucked inside the folded tag, so you no longer see a mess of old tags when you flip each page. Instead, you now see more information on the coin as you are viewing the reverses. This folded tag system is definitely the way to go.

    For example, I can display my @red_spork provenance and previous older provenance on my Istros drachm. Very important as this red_spork fellow is going to be very well known one day for being one of the top Roman Republic numismatics experts...so even a Greek coin owned by him is huge.

    And I can also note at what show @John Anthony bought some of his coins before I won them at auction.

    It's little details like that that enhance the viewer's pleasure, and let's people know they are looking at a serious collection of genuine ancient coins, and not some Mickey Mouse stuff.

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  11. Eng

    Eng Senior Eng

    Sallent, very clean and organized, they do make those flips with sticky, so you wouldn't have to staple.:)
     
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  12. Sallent

    Sallent Live long and prosper

    * I just noticed I messed up the date on the Alexander III tet. Oh well, less vodka next time! I will fix it tomorrow and finish my Roman Republic tags, then next week I'll do the ones for the Roman Imperial and provincial coins.
     
  13. fred.lombardo102

    fred.lombardo102 Active Member

    I did something similar for my world coin collection on Excel. Works well and the formulas allow for calculations on cost and perceived value.

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  14. Paul M.

    Paul M. Well-Known Member

    Not bad. Couple of typos "incurse square", "youthfil", "facing Make heads", "Ex. Pegasi Mumismatics". Otherwise very neat looking. The only thing stopping me from running out and doing the same thing is, as you mentioned, the coins can't be easily handled. I think you could solve that by cutting a Saflip in half and using that to protect the coin inside the page. Then, you could remove the flip and pop the coin out whenever you wanted.
     
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  15. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    As nice as it is, I dislike it only because when you end up getting many more coins, you have to buy more album pages, which in turn you need a bigger binder or buy more binders. I just find it's wasted space, when the label slots can be used for more coins.

    I recently had to buy a 2 inch binder since my ancient collection has grown to needing that size. But for now, at least it's still in one binder, which should last me a few years.
     
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  16. red_spork

    red_spork Triumvir monetalis

    Nice tags! I used them at one point but mine were never nice and colorful. I started out with carboard flips, then moved to SAFLIPs with printed tags and finally to envelopes with handwritten details and so far I much prefer the envelopes to either of the previous methods. I like to handle my coins and the envelopes encourage that much more than the SAFLIPs did in my opinion. Especially for larger coins like Republican asses and semisses the envelopes hold up much better as well. I don't have "red_spork" collection written on them or anything but you'll know a coin was mine if you see it because the back flap of the envelope will have something to the effect of JMR160021 written on it which is my internal code scheme for matching exact coins to database instances. JM=my initials, R=the category(R->Republican, I->Republican Imitative, RP->Republic provincial, etc.) 16 for the year I purchased it(2016), 0021 for it being the 21st coin of the category I purchased that year. All of the important information as far as attribution, variants, weight, all known provenance, etc. is right there on the envelope, but I also have a spreadsheet made with Google Docs that has even more info in it. I've screenshotted a row below as an example:
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    And one of the envelopes in question:
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  17. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    PaulM => yes, it is my sweet 500 lb gun safe ...

    Ummm, I suppose most people's safes look like this ...

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    => here is a slightly more recent photo of my sweet safe, with many more 3-Ring Albums than my previous photo ...

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    Again, I realize that this may not be the best method for everybody, but man, I have a blast viewing my collection ... it's a pleasure to flip through my albums and view the large cool photos and read the extensive coin info located right there with the coin itself (hey, it works for me)

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    ... anyway ...

    I have failed to convert you coin-folks in previous threads, so I'm fairly sure that the same thing will happen here ... oh, and either way, I wish all of you good luck and I hope that you have great success no matter which way you decide to sort and view your cool coins!!

    cheers
     
  18. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    You've got a great collection going! I love seeing peoples' albums, especially when the the pics are so nicely focused.
     
  19. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    Good question actually. Theoretically you would want laser I believe. Laser would always be dry, and not subject to sticking, as well as have no risk of outgassing.

    If someone wants pretty color, color lasers are now really cheap. I just bought one for the wife and kiddies.

    I know the saflips are hard, but safest for the coins. :)
     
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  20. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    Btw, i am always jealous of all of these posts. I just don't have time to play with me coins as much as I like. Mine go into flips, into boxes, and into the sdb. Most of the time not to be looked at again for maybe a decade....
     
  21. Pishpash

    Pishpash Well-Known Member

    Now that's just sad :(
     
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