opinions on Grade and Price

Discussion in 'What's it Worth' started by gopher29, Jul 8, 2007.

  1. gopher29

    gopher29 Coin Hoarder

    I'm trying to get an idea of what this raw and uncertified 1914-D Lincoln Cent would grade and how much I could reasonably expect to get for it in today's market. Sorry the pictures aren't a little more detailed but I don't have a scanner or a tripod.
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  3. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    It is probably a VG, but the digs really decrease the value, probably to an AG.
     
  4. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    VG details, damaged, net good. It ought to go for between $75 and $125 depending on the winds that day. With all the rim damage, is it also bent?
     
  5. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    You would probably have a hard time selling it as well - that dot in front of the 1 makes it look like it might be an altered coin - a 44 into a 14. Not that I think it is, I don't. But it does make it look that way. I agree on the AG too.
     
  6. gopher29

    gopher29 Coin Hoarder

    It's not bent at all. It just has the deep scratches on the face and the dings on the rim. I think maybe it got kicked around on the pavement at one point in its life.
     
  7. Shortgapbob

    Shortgapbob Emerging Numismatist

    I agree. The coin looks genuine to me, but as Doug said, the spot in front of the second 1 would make this coin suspicious to some buyers.
     
  8. The_Cave_Troll

    The_Cave_Troll The Coin Troll

    IF it is genuine (Pics aren't good enough for me to be comfortable calling it genuine) then it is probably in the good/vg details range, but too damaged to get into a holder, so a net of AG. It's a filler but a key date, so it will always have a home, but I'd guess its only worth $100 to $125 or so.
     
  9. gopher29

    gopher29 Coin Hoarder

    I just took another look at this coin and those spots that make the coin appear somewhat suspect are really just specks of dust and debris. I wiped them off and the date looks fine now. Other than the specks in the photo I don't see anything about the date that appears altered (ie spacing, scratches, etc.). Numismedia lists the 1914-D cent in Good condiiton at $192 but I guess you folks don't think this coin approaches that?
     
  10. gopher29

    gopher29 Coin Hoarder

    Here's one more picture of it after wiping off the specks of debris.
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  11. 73sparky

    73sparky New Member

    Are the dark areas around the letters and design, while the field looks so nice a sign of cleaning
     
  12. gopher29

    gopher29 Coin Hoarder

    I think the variances in the toning comes from the coin probably having spent some time lying face down on the pavement. If you've ever found a penny that had been lying on the asphalt you know what I'm talking about. It's that damage done to a coin that gives one surface that roughed up look from having been in contact with a harsh surface. There's no corrosion on this coin so I don't think it was ever lost in the soil. And the reverse is in much nicer shape than the obverse which is why I think it must have been lying face down.
     
  13. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    The coin would probably qualify as a G if it wasn't damaged - but it is damaged. So the value for a G coin is meaningless in this case.
     
  14. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank


    Doug:
    If that were the case then there would be an uneven amount of space between numbers.
    The dot look more like lint or dirt to me.
     
  15. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank


    :thumb:
    Take $50 to $75 and run, no dealer would offer more, since they'll probably die with it.
     
  16. huntsman53

    huntsman53 Supporter**

    Besides the rim damage and what looks like Counter Machine damage on Lincoln's forehead which extends into the fields, I am not sure that the gouge between his' nose and lip is damage! This area looks more like a "Struck Through" Error but the coin would need closer inspection by a Coin Dealer and or TPG to be sure. Even with the damage and whether the possible "Struck Through" Error is just that or damage, I still believe that the coin would get at least a G-4 grade. However, "Struck Through" Errors on Key Date coins are considered detrimental to their look and value and it along with the damage, would significantly lower the value of the coin. Shop the coin around and if someone will give you $100 for it, then IMHO you should take it.


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  17. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator


    Yes, I know that, which is why I said I didn't think it was. But there are a whole lot of people who do not know that. Which is why I said what I did.
     
  18. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank


    Agreed, with a more careful reading of the above.
     
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