Odd 1755 Russian Rouble- Probably Fake

Discussion in 'World Coins' started by Evan8, Mar 21, 2024.

  1. Evan8

    Evan8 A Little Off Center

    I don't know much about old Russian coins but I found this one interesting. It was very cheap. I know authentic ones are very expensive, but the seller knew nothing of coins, so I took the risk.

    1755 Elizabeth Rouble. It is 39mm in diameter, should be 41mm. It weighs 23.94 grams, which is about 2 grams too light. The M on the reverse under the eagle's leg appears to be in the wrong font as well.

    However, I found the die clash on the obverse to be interesting.

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    And then there is the matter of the edge lettering...
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    Lettering isn't even close to what an authentic example should have. Almost looks like numbering for a limited production.

    Like I said, I don't know much about Russian coins so if anyone knows more than me, you are more than welcome to chime in. I also looked into the possibility of a novodel but that doesn't seem to fit this case either, so most likely just a fake, or maybe a contemporary counterfeit.
     
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  3. Willysilver

    Willysilver HEADS UP

    Is it magnetic and weigh it that's my suggestion but that's not always true either because I found three Henning nickels and none of them weighed over 5 G and they're supposed to weigh like 5.4 G
     
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  4. Willysilver

    Willysilver HEADS UP

    That's an awesome die clash what a cool coin Google it
     
  5. ZoidMeister

    ZoidMeister Hamlet Squire of Tomfoolery . . . . .

    Dunno man, looks pretty legit to me. It doesn't have any of the typical "modern" counterfeit signatures.

    Z
     
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  6. Evan8

    Evan8 A Little Off Center

    That's my other question, what were the standards for uniformity of coins being made during the 1750's in Imperial Russia?
     
  7. muhfff

    muhfff Well-Known Member

    Unfortunately fake.
    The coin is a bit too round and edge is completely off - the text should not be incused and totally different text should be there (MOCKOBCKOTO MOHETHOTO ABOPA).
     
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  8. Evan8

    Evan8 A Little Off Center

    I figured. It was just too odd with that clash and too cheap to ignore.
     
  9. Numismat

    Numismat World coin enthusiast

    Unfortunately modern. The edge is a dead giveaway. The clash is definitely interesting. Cool item, glad you got it on the cheap
     
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