1962 Quarter DDO?

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by Jim Johns, Sep 23, 2016.

  1. Jim Johns

    Jim Johns Active Member

    So I've had this BU 1962 Quarter for about 6 months and just remembered why I bought this particular one. It looks like an FS-101 DDO and has the die crack along the base of the bust which is a marker from what I have gathered. There is definitely a split seriff doubling effect but I'm not sure if it is THE DDO I'm thinking. Any thoughts? IMG_20160923_015606.jpg IMG_20160923_015643.jpg IMG_20160923_015548.jpg IMG_20160923_015524.jpg IMG_20160923_015627.jpg
     
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  3. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

  4. Jim Johns

    Jim Johns Active Member

    It doesn't have any die cracks on the reverse. I suggested the FS-101 because of the die crack along the bust. it also has the due dots under the 6 and two lines going NE toward the bust off of the right of the 9. I know those are difficult to see from the pictures but they are there. Could be wrong on the designation but I don't think from any of the markers mentioned that it an 004
     
  5. Jim Johns

    Jim Johns Active Member

    maybe B&W helps to show the die crack and doubling of the initials?
     

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  6. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    Check out the " O " in God . 24a1fc97eff08d37ffff86f9ffffe41e.jpg
    make sure yours matches it ....
     
  7. Jim Johns

    Jim Johns Active Member

    The O is flat next to the G. It doesn't appear as sharp of an angle where it flattens out but I only have the picture to go on until I get home later. Either way we're in agreement it is a DDO, even if not the FS-001?
     

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  8. Jim Johns

    Jim Johns Active Member

    The O actually looks to be the same for all of the DDO Listings for this year..
     
  9. Rick Stachowski

    Rick Stachowski Motor City Car Capital

    You have to look at the spacing between the " G " & " O " of God . Yours looks more like 4, the spacing is really close on 1 ...

    But it's hard to tell with these images ...............
     
  10. Jim Johns

    Jim Johns Active Member

    It doesn't have any of the die chips associated with 004 and the only two with the due crack on the bust are 001 and 002 from these listings. Then the 2 polish lines off the 9 and die chips under the 6 seem to be telling the tale. As long as it's not Machine Doubling, which is not the case, Im fairly confident it's at least one of the first 2 listings. Thanks for the help
     
  11. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    Your coin, from the evidence provided, in no way looks to be either (WDDO) #1 or #2, and it's probably safe to say the possibility of being #4 is at best remote. Don't try to cram a square peg into a round hole.

    Markers are wonderful, but they're a tool and need to be used as such. Start first by trying to match whatever doubling you think you see; if it doesn't match what you're comparing it to, you're SOL, and the same goes for markers. That said, and again, from the evidence you've thus far presented, there's absolutely no reason to think the coin in question is a doubled die. If you're firm on believing it to be so, please post higher quality photos and let them speak for themselves.
     
  12. Jim Johns

    Jim Johns Active Member

    Can you not see? there are numerous visible splits showing obvious doubling. I have other 1962 BU Quarters and this is not typical. What exactly do you call this then?
     
  13. Jim Johns

    Jim Johns Active Member

    Hard to tell from the pictures!? I really can't even take a better, more obvious picture than these. Wow..
     
  14. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    Take a hint, hotshot.
     
  15. Jim Johns

    Jim Johns Active Member

    Ya and what's that?
     
  16. Jim Johns

    Jim Johns Active Member

    I asked if it's a specific DDO and can't get my answer because the pictures just "aren't good enough". Not if it was a DDO of any sort. Why do you guys always get like this when it comes to errors? It was an honest question and a simple answer would suffice.
     
  17. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    "Get like" what? Do you mean daring to focus on verifiable fact as opposed to guesses or fluffy conjecture? Hmm... I wonder why.

    Re-read your above-quoted post, slowly if need be; there's your "simple answer" unless all you really want is "simply" to be told what you want to hear.

    You asked if its a "specific DDO" and I told you that it "in no way looks" to be said variety based solely upon the evidence you've provided. Let's think about this for a minute.... has it crossed your mind, even momentarily, that the reason the only two people who bothered to (try to) help you have now suggested better photos is, well, because that is what's genuinely needed? Perhaps there is a very good reason you're not getting the clear-cut answers you demand, and it's not because you're being wronged or treated unfairly. I know this is crazy-speak, but maybe, just maybe, blaming others, especially when there's a simple and obvious fix, isn't the smartest way to go about achieving your goal. Good luck to you.
     
  18. Jim Johns

    Jim Johns Active Member

    Ya the title was about a specific DDO, you're right. Rick however, at first, stated that it looked to be a different DDO. Then I simply asked if we were in agreement of it being A ddo, not THE ddo. Because the due markers are not clear enough I suppose, I tried to point out that if he were agreeing that it was any DDO, the only 2 listed with a die crack across the base of the bust was 001 and 002. Then basing the other markers like the die dots under 6 and the 2 polish lines, by description of markers, it led me to only #1. Then, it's not clear enough and it no longer looks to be any DDO of any sort. Kind of a flip flop opinion and I 100% respect Rick's. I was only trying to point out my observation of the markers at that point, since the pictures are horrendous. Then you come on to tell me it's absolutely no chance of DDO of any variety besides MAYBE #4. I can still respect that a d we could have had a conversation as to why, or you could have simply said, "without better pictures, it's hard to say". But instead you go on to imply I'm an idiot and there was just zero chance of it being anything out of the ordinary. I can respect you knowing more than me about the specific coin in question, but to me, it was flat out ignorant to give me such an opinion on multiple pictures that are at least clear enough to see the separation and know it's not machine doubling or anything else. Your approach was just all wrong and very disrespectful to me so tell me why I should kneel before you for your own opinion? Because of how you stated your opinion so rudely based on terrible, useless pictures?
     
  19. Jim Johns

    Jim Johns Active Member

    Top is a verified FS-101, Bottom is the coin in question. Notice the inside (Bottom Right) of the 9 and the spot between the bottom of the 6 and the Rim. Hmmmm..
     

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  20. Jim Johns

    Jim Johns Active Member

    And the top of the 2...and the die crack on the bust...Pretty sure my coin beat your book wise guy. Thanks for the motivation.
     
  21. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    Why, ain't that dandy! Well, other than that coin didn't "beat" squat, there genius.... surely someone as learned as yourself realizes cracks in that location are fairly common, and certainly took the time to compare the two closely enough to determine if they're actually exact match before flapping your lips, right?
     
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