Help Identifing A Coin

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by bespetna, Jul 7, 2007.

  1. bespetna

    bespetna New Member

    well I have this coin my dad says is thousends of years old. It looks to be roman but maybe you can help me identify it or maybe even give me a link to a website that would tell me more about the coin. It is damaged around the ends so most of the letters are unreadable. The pictures on the other hand can be seen clearly on one side but not on the other.

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    This image looks to have a soldier with a flag giving it what aphears to be an angle with wings a halo and its sitting on a thrown.


    You can somewhat make out the letering it says

    from left to right on top:

    *M*V*IOAN*CORNELIO

    at bottem it says

    *A.M*


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    This side is much harder to see but still a bit readable
    The picture looks like a lion type creature with wings

    Its realy hard to make out the lettering wich says:
    (unreadable to the left) then staring from the middle to the right top

    DI.DVCAT.VENET.




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    Please help me find this coins identity.
    I would love to see the history of this coin
     
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  3. coinman101

    coinman101 Collector Of All Coins

    Bespetna, better pictures would help indentify this coin. Make an account with PhotoBucket. Upload your pictures to PhotoBucket. Then post the URL of the pictures.
     
  4. bespetna

    bespetna New Member

    Ill post some more pics
     
  5. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Howdy bespetna - Welcome to the Forum !!

    The coin you have is a Venetian ducat, not thousands of years old but hundreds. The pictures do concern me somewhat because of the color - the ducat is almost always a gold coin. But there were some silver examples. If you had better pics I could tell you more about it and whether it is authentic or not.
     
  6. bespetna

    bespetna New Member

    It is more then likly authentic becouse of were it was found.

    Thats not it
    my coin is much different then the Venetian ducat

    It was found in EGYPT most likely when Alexander the great concored Alexandria
     
  7. Drusus

    Drusus Pecunia non olet

    The inscription fits a ventetian ducat of some sort. It says it is from Johannes Cornelius, Doge of Venice.
     
  8. dopeuser

    dopeuser Senior Member

    check this out
    http://www.baldwin.sh/coinlists/venice.pdf
    it doesnt have that EXACT coin, but very close, enough to figure out what it is.
    Looks like its from Giovanni Corner (Cornaro) II issued around 1709 -1722,
    Check out coin #74, as well as #58 - 64, you can get a pretty good idea on what you have.
     
  9. Drusus

    Drusus Pecunia non olet

    This is the guy Johann Cornelius Doge of Venice...

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    The date on this is 1709...now I cant find a doge by that name at that date so I assume it is another name for Giovanni Corner who was doge of venice from 1702 to 1722...

    BTW...Doge derives from Dux (Duke) and in this case means he was the chief magistrate of the city of venice.
     
  10. bespetna

    bespetna New Member

    Thats it!

    #58 thx alote and damn it looks to be worth quit a bit
     
  11. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator


    No, that's not it. That is an entirely differnt coin - read the legends. But it is similar to yours. I'm still not sure exactly what yours is.
     
  12. bespetna

    bespetna New Member

    They look exactly the same.
    You cant tell the difference
     
  13. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator


    Did you read the legends on coin #58 ? You stated the legends on your coin were -

    *M*V*IOAN*CORNELIO *A.M*

    DI.DVCAT.VENET.


    The legends on coin #58 are -

    S•M•V•ALOY:MOCENIGO•D•, R•B•P•

    DVCATVS VENETVS


    They are not even close to the same. You have a different coin.
     
  14. bespetna

    bespetna New Member

    True,
    But they are probably related in some way.
    I mean both pictues on the front and back match
    I bet you that they just have different value and a cuple years away from each other
     
  15. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    I told you that with my first post in this thread. What you need to do is try and get decent pictures of the coin so I can see them. I used to specialize in ducats and have written several articles about them. So I will be more than happy to help you correctly identify it and determine if it is genuine or not and what the value is if any. But I need need better pictures to do that ;)
     
  16. bespetna

    bespetna New Member

    To tell you the truth those are the best pics of the coin I could get.
    It's not exactly in good condition
     
  17. Twiggs

    Twiggs Coin Collector

    try holding a magnifying glass..if you have one...between the camera and coin. Thats what I use to do
     
  18. Drusus

    Drusus Pecunia non olet

    The condition of the coin is irrelevant as to whether you can get a good clear picture of it. Do you have a macro setting on your camera? or do you have a scanner? a scanner doesnt take a nice image but it is clear.
     
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