The Season of Harvest

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by John Anthony, Sep 16, 2016.

  1. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    I'm not a farmer but have eaten enough corn on the cob to distinguishing kernel from ear. The species may be in question and is made worse by UK English using the word 'corn' for grain in general while US English reserves it for maize.

    The NAC photo does look like a kernel but their description says ear. Odd.
     
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  3. Deacon Ray

    Deacon Ray Well-Known Member

    Thanks for the harvest topic, John Anthony! It's a good one.

    Here's mine: AJudaean Herod Archelaus prutah.

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  4. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    I grew up farming, but we did not grow Barley... :D Most of my experiences were Cattle, Sheep, Chickens, Corn (Maize), Wheat, Oats, and Hay... (You know... all that Hoosier stuff...)
     
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  5. Deacon Ray

    Deacon Ray Well-Known Member

    Nice Herod Agrippa!
     
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  6. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    I really love that Metapontum of yours!

    Here's one from Skotussa showing a sprouting grain that the raw foodists amongst us may appreciate...

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    THESSALY, Skotussa
    Circa 465-460 BC
    AR Hemidrachm. 3.0g, 16mm. BCD II 731 (same dies); SNG Copenhagen 251. O: Forepart of horse to right. R: ΣK - O, Germinating barley grain; all within incuse square.
     
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  7. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    Hey guys, thanks for the great contributions! Here's a better pic of the OP coin and a thank you to @red_spork for his previous analysis. Politicians lying huh? I'm shocked.

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  8. wmichael

    wmichael Active Member

    Folks I'm sorry, but the use of the term "corn" is going to confuse some people. "Corn" is the stuff that comes off a cob to most folks, and not a synonym for grain.
    Columbus brought the "cob" stuff back to the "old world". The "corn market" of England was the "grain market". Like I said, sorry, but too much time teaching history.
     
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  9. wmichael

    wmichael Active Member

    I wrote my note before I came to your entry, sorry.
     
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  10. Deacon Ray

    Deacon Ray Well-Known Member

    That's a very beautiful coin with a bold and simple design.
     
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  11. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    This problem was caused by US collectors buying English books (Seaby) but failing to translate the word corn to grain.

    Z's germinating barley is a real winner!
     
  12. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    I understand the difference between an American definition of corn (maize on cob or a single kernel of corn), and the European definition (a single seed of a grain - gawd knows I have farmed it and shoveled truckloads of it growing up). :D

    My Aes Grave Frog looks as if there is a single barley corn on the reverse.
     
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  13. wmichael

    wmichael Active Member

    To make it more confusing, 50 year ago we called milo maize!
     
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  14. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    LOL, TRUE! And where I grew up, we called Bell Peppers as MANGOS! Still have friends call them that.
     
  15. wmichael

    wmichael Active Member

    OK, that new to me. By the by, farm kid on the family farm from 1868 in Texas.
     
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  16. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    I grew up eating muskmelons but stores where I am today sell cantaloupes. Don't ever get in a discussion of what goes in chili, what kind of critter makes barbecue or who invented Brunswick stew. The guy who thought we all spoke the same language did not get around much.
     
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  17. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    My Grandfather owned a Grocery in a small town in Indiana... names of foods have changed a LOT in the last several years! (Yeah, Doug, we called them Muskmelons...) :) With modern mass / instant communications, rural and local dialects are dying out in the US, and I would imagine ANYWHERE in the world...
     
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  18. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    We called it sorghum, with the kernels on top called milo. We did not farm it much, rotated out every few years.
     
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  19. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Nice germinating barley coin Z ...

    Uummm, so my Thessaly example from page-1 is also a germinating barley grain?


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    ... yah okay fine, I just wanted to get some well deserved coin-credit as well, my friends!!


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    Great coin, Z-bro!!

    => Hey, we're barley coin-brothers!!

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  20. Eng

    Eng Senior Eng

    Great coin Big John, harvest is over out here and fall knocking at the door!!
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  21. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Sweet example, West Coast Eng!! (I had a great time out there this vacation)

    Speakin' of fall ... I'm gonna go and snap a quick photo outside (hang-on a sec)

    => yup, fall is totally "on" in my northern hood!! (sadly, I predict snow before the end of the month!!)

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