Garage or Estate Sale Finds

Don't know if this could be a continuing thread, but I had a recent find at a garage sale that I posted and have a new one. Anyone else...

Craigslist listing said he had a proof commemorative dollar. When I got there, he had a few coins and was a real novice collector. I bought the dollar (Ellis Island) and he showed me this:



He had an older Red Book and I showed him that it could be a valuable coin even dateless. He really wanted instant money and wanted $10. I bought it and looking at it more closely, I think it is a 1917...what say you?

 

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I don't collect these and can't come close to reading the date. But, with the placement of the stars on the reverse it would have to be a '16 or'17 wouldn't it ?

 

1917 - Rivets on shield have too much detail to be a 1916

There are other features to determine the years but the rivets to me is easy determine which one.

 

1916 or 1917, might as well call it a 16
I think you are going to have to acid treat it to get a closer look.
What's the grade AG?

 

That isn't always true, though it usually is. This is because the most widely circulated example of the "What the 1916 SLQ should look like" picture in poor (dateless) condition doesn't have them - but examples of 1916s with similar rivet strength in low grade are out there. https://www.coinworld.com/news/us-coins/market-analysis-1916-standing-liberty-quarter That said, this rivet pattern is more common on the 1917 type 1 in poor shape and the drape doesn't look like it's touching the ankle. Insider has shown the pattern under the arm ("W") that is one of the key tells of the 1916 vs 1917, but I'm not sure on this one - I'm leaning toward a type 1, 1917, but you might want to send it in to ICG on the CoinTalk special if you're really curious - spend some time comparing it to other examples and looking at it under the magnifier - that's what I did anyway. Good luck! For $10 you're good either way. Congrats!

 

Looks like you’re right. BUT I want it to be a 1916 type 1

 

If it did indeed turn out to be a 1916, I would share with the guy I bought it from.

 

So...what have others found?

 

Lol, I found a 1916 in a consignment store lot of mixed silver quarters. It's my profile photo. I looked at that thing for a quite a while under different lighting, my magnifying glass and my microscope - comparing to the other dateless type 1s I had (1917s) and the online resources, and finally I decided I'd do my first TPG submission ever and send it in with some others - and it was a 1916! It's one of my most prized coins, though over the years as my budget has expanded and my interests broadened a bit, it's not necessarily my best coin any more - but still in my top 10 for me - and it really made me want to have a complete SLQ set - 18/7-s overdate, too - graded and slabbed by PCGS, NGC, ANACS or ICG. I currently have 3 details coins in the set (trying to get them all to AU / MS) - the 1916 FR2, the 1918/7-S VF Details, and the 1923-S VF30 Details. I don't plan on upgrading the 1916 or 18/7-S but the 23-S is in line for an upgrade.

 

I've had no luck at all finding coins at estate/garage sales or antique/pawn shops. I rarely even look anymore.

 

What's really annoying is I go to those estate sales and antique shops and I sometimes get sucked in to buying other stuff I don't need or have any use for. I own a neat Boy Scouts Western Union De Luxe Radio-Telegraph Signal Set in the original box... (for example). Also, fountain pens, why do I find fountain pens interesting when I see one for sale at an estate sale yet boring when I get it home. Coins are where I need to be.

 

I have the same fountain pen affliction. I buy them when I see them, then put ink in them and never touch them again. Definitely a brain fart of some kind.

 

It looks like a 16. Could get it graded.

 

I'm with 1917 for this one. Looks like it's got the second hair curl. But I haven't = looked for 1916 examples for a while, so I'm rusty.

 

I don't see much that leads to the coveted 1916.
I'm seeing 1917....

Shield rivets are pronounced.
Incuse wall lines very clear.
Second hair curl.

 

Yup, that's what I was looking at... @Insider ?

 

I see now. This one has the 17 diagnostics.

 

Not only is it showing rivets but the area of the gown by the foot is wrong for the 16. I have seen some incorrectly designated ones even by PCGS.

 

I'm leaning toward 1917 type 1 on this one as well - given the ankle / robe and the rest, but I will note that the shield wear (rivets) aren't always definitive - even the incuse wall lines you see do see exceptions in 1916s because coins wear differently and earlier die strikes are better / later ones worse - the big one is the high point under the arm of the robe. The head / hair look 1916 to me, though it's a lot easier to see in hand - so I don't know - and I'd like Insider to weigh in too. He'll probably say "send it in!" - which is probably the best advice, lol.

 

Definitely 1917.