GTG Peace Dollar

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Pickin and Grinin, Feb 8, 2024.

  1. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    I have been trying to rebuild my peace collection. It's not nearly as easy as it was 5 years ago. I bought a duplicate today. Mainly for the surfaces, combo'd with the grade. It reminds me of a rusted die on the obv.
    There is a ton going on in hand.
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    I might have to ask you all next about a 93CC.
    Researching it tonight.
     
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  3. Dima

    Dima Member

    "It's a beaut, Clark!"

    Looks like it's very lustrous and has pretty strong strike. To your point about the surfaces, I can't quite make out from the photo if it's got that rusted-overused-die surface or the brand-new-handmade-die surface; I'm guessing the latter based on how bright and crisp it appears. In my limited experience, with rusted dies, the letters/numbers become very fuzzy and difficult to make out. Maybe that's what we're seeing with the U in TRUST, but without my trusted loupe, I'm uncertain.

    On the reverse, minimal contact/bag marks.

    I'm torn between MS63 (because of a few noticeable, "distracting" contact marks) and MS65 (because of the fresh off the presses surfaces) so I'll split the difference and I guess MS64. Definitely leaning toward MS64+/MS65 though..


    As a side note, I'm a big fan of the original surfaces on old Morgan/Peace dollars. The handmade nature of the clay models later transposed to the dies added a wonderful element to the coins. I think this is the key missing feature from the 2021 and 2023 restrikes; they were digitally modeled resulting in perfect, flat, boring surfaces. Still pretty, but certainly lacking compared to their early 20th century counterparts.
     
  4. SensibleSal66

    SensibleSal66 U.S Casual Collector / Error Collector

  5. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    The dies are a little bumpy but I’m loving her. I’m at MS65 but they sometimes 64 these for the die state, although I don’t think they should. At any rate, that’s one fine-looking lady.
     
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  6. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    Newer holder and fairly mark-free, so I'm at MS 65
    ...only the hits on the neck worry me a bit
     
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  7. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    Most below 65 would say details.
     
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  8. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    Despite the marks on the neck, I still think the coin deserves a gem grade.

    MS65
     
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  9. dwhiz

    dwhiz Collector Supporter

  10. David Betts

    David Betts Elle Mae Clampett cruising with Dad

    I step in at 65 because of reverse "very pretty" and everyone loves a pretty lady! Almost like the reverse die was collared and obverse was the pressure die. Lol
     
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  11. lardan

    lardan Supporter! Supporter

    Very nice coin, MS64.
     
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  12. Mr. Numismatist

    Mr. Numismatist Strawberry Token Enthusiast

    I agree with @Dima. I guess MS-64, but it's approaching MS-65 in my opinion.
     
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  13. ZoidMeister

    ZoidMeister Hamlet Squire of Tomfoolery . . . . .

    64 with a Green bean.

    Z
     
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  14. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    Bump, Posting the grade in a few hours.
     
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  15. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    Alright here is the grade. I did find the VAM I believe. It is a rusted and pitted die on the obverse. Which is an R-5
    1925-P VAM-1AP - VAMWorld (ec2-13-58-222-16.us-east-2.compute.amazonaws.com)
    As far as the grade. This is a very lustrous coin and nearly contact free except for the bag marks on the neck. There are a few others but not noticed unless under magnification.
    I agree with the MS66 on this one.
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  16. Dima

    Dima Member

    Lovely! Definitely can see this one being 66 in hand.
     
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  17. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    This is why I always include slab photos when I sell coins. The closeups can often make small marks look more prominent than they actually are. After seeing the slab photo of this Peace Dollar, I have no problem with the MS66 grade, though I think this coin is on the 65-66 range, and would probably not earn a CAC sticker.
     
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  18. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    Agreed, if I had not gotten it for around Grey sheet I probably wouldn't have bought it. The rusted obv die was what attracted me to the coin.
     
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  19. David Betts

    David Betts Elle Mae Clampett cruising with Dad

    love it fooled the GTG ers not a MS66! very nice
     
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