Inconsistent

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Valentinian, Sep 13, 2016.

  1. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    Left-facing bust is inconsistent:

    Faustina Jr IVNO As.jpg

    Faustina Jr under Antoninus Pius
    Roman middle bronze
    Rome, AD 149-156
    11.1 gm, 25.3 mm
    Obv: FAVSTINA AVG PII AVG FIL, bare-headed and draped bust, l.
    Rev: IVNO SC, Juno seated l., holding the three graces and scepter; at feet, peacock.
    c.f. RIC--1400, c.f. Cohen-128

    Obverse die match (different reverse die) to coin sold in CNG Mail Bid Sale 57, April 4, 2001
     
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  3. Carthago

    Carthago Does this look infected to you?

    This is a hybrid of Domitia with Domitian on the obverse instead of her. To my knowledge, there are 2 known, maybe 3. I bought it from Tom Cederlind at my first NYINC and it was the most expensive coin I had ever bought. I thought my wife was going to kill me when I told her. She didn't, which just encouraged more bad financial coin behavior in the future. Cool wife.

    Domitian Denarius Hybrid Cederlind 2008.jpg

    Here is the correct coin. I also bought this from Cederlind at a NYINC show a few years later. I had to have both and even though these aren't Roman Republican, they will remain in my collection because I find them completely charming.

    Domitia Denarius Child Globe Cederlind 2010.jpg

    Here is a catalogue citation I lifted someplace that is in my database notes. NAC or perhaps NFA where the Domitian first originated in sale.

    "Throughout the course of Imperial Roman coinage seven children were honored posthumously, with five of them being presented as gods. One of these divine children was an infant son born to Domitia, the wife of Domitian. Virtually nothing is known about him, and if he had not appeared on this rare coin type, he would have been little more than a footnote in the historical record. We may deduce from a passage in Suetonius, from historical circumstances, and from his infantile appearance on memorial coins that he probably was born in 83 and died soon thereafter. Regrettably, his name is nowhere recorded. Since the boy usually appears on the reverse of coins of Domitia, and Domitian seems to have divorced her in about 83 (roughly the time she would have given birth to the boy), it seems obvious that he died in infancy and that Domitian immediately deified him and celebrated him on coinage before he exiled his wife. Domitian’s grief must have been profound, for the boy’s presentation ranks among the most inventive on all Roman coinage; he is shown as a young Jupiter seated on a globe with his hands raised toward seven stars that represent the constellation of the Great Bear (Ursa Major). The boy is also represented on two other rare issues: denarii inscribed PIETAS AVGVST that show him standing before Domitia in the guise of Pietas, and sestertii with a similar scene but inscribed DIVI CAESAR MATRI or DIVI CAESARIS MATER. This particular denarius is a notable rarity, and is considered to be a muling of a Domitian obverse with a Domitia reverse."
     
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  4. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    LOL... :D The fear, the terror... :D

    And what an AWESOME coin! Same sentiments...ain't Republican, but that is a KEEPER! Nice one!
     
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  5. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    inconsistency appears to be the theme of my coin collection...

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