Disappointed with 100th anniversary SLQ

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Dynoking, Sep 14, 2016.

  1. Dynoking

    Dynoking Well-Known Member

    I received my Standing Liberty 2016 Centennial Gold Coin from the mint today. The reverse has cloudy areas that look like someone took a pencil eraser to the coins' field in the V of the eagles' wings and the field a-top the tail feathers extending mid way up the wing, both are visible with the naked eye.
    Under microscope magnification there is a jagged line (a die crack?) beginning at the intersection of the vertical upright and lower horizontal of the R in AMERICA, extending to the upper left corner of the B in PLVRIBVS.
    Has anybody had or heard of quality issues with the anniversary SLQ? The crack I can live with. (a die variety)? But the cloudy blemished areas are not what I expected from a uncirculated coin.
    Should I return this coin?
    Request a different coin?
    Ask for a refund (is it likely that a different coin will have similar quality issues)?
     
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  3. JJK78

    JJK78 Member

    The mint has a return policy for just such reasons. If you are not happy then just send it back and get another one. Mine looked fine.
     
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  4. rickmp

    rickmp Frequently flatulent.

    They're not sold out?! I thought these would be gone in minutes.
     
  5. Cascade

    Cascade CAC Grader, Founding Member

    With 100k and 1 hh limit they'll linger for weeks if not months or longer ;)

    Same thing will happen with the Reagan C&C sets :(
     
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  6. Vess1

    Vess1 CT SP VIP Supporter

    I just opened mine moments ago. Mine has somewhat of a cloudy area between the eagles wings as well so I'd imagine this is common for whatever reason. Edit: I just looked at it again and I believe it's just how the metal flowed when struck causing some shadow. I don't believe it's a blemish at all. It's just not perfectly flat. It didn't bother me.

    The strike is better than I expected. Better than the photos we've seen here. It looks FH to me and appears "everything" struck up even some minute, faint high points of the design. I have 2 mercs as well and I believe the strike is better on this quarter. Very happy with it.
     
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  7. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    Gottem Pic Keemosabe? Pics are worth a thousand words. Put the mint boys and girls to shame with them. I didn't order a one..........How the devil can you screw up 24K gold?
     
  8. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    For OP Vess. Not for you. Though you can add a pic or two to allow us to see what's goin' on.......
     
  9. Cascade

    Cascade CAC Grader, Founding Member

    How's the nipple?
     
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  10. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

  11. Vess1

    Vess1 CT SP VIP Supporter

    It's faint but can be seen with naked eye.
     
  12. Vess1

    Vess1 CT SP VIP Supporter

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    Best I can do with a cell camera and a loop atm.
     
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  13. Vess1

    Vess1 CT SP VIP Supporter

    This is what the op was talking about. It just looks like the fields are raised a little somehow.

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  14. Vess1

    Vess1 CT SP VIP Supporter

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    Just noticed what op was saying. I've looked at it and looked at it. It looks like a dent but I don't think it is. It almost seems like a luster break or something different with the surface causing a shadow.

    Its odd because there's nothing on the other side that should be causing that. The variation is similar to the other 2 circled areas.
     
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  15. Dynoking

    Dynoking Well-Known Member

    You nailed my concern on the head! You actually have a third area of haze. I have handled a lot of MS American gold coins and have never seen this. I think it takes away eye appeal. I'm not sure if returning for an exchange is worth the effort if I'm going to receive similar coin back.
     
  16. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    Yet another fine specimen from the good people down at the United States Mint bullion division. But, seeing as how not having 55% or more of them slabbed as SP70's would ruin the big dealers' lives, all manner of crap will still get 70's. It's all about the marketing. Well..., the marketing and the epically gullible who fall for it.
     
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  17. Dynoking

    Dynoking Well-Known Member

    Hi Kurt, Do you have an opinion on this with respect to quality, eye appeal, value, and cause?
     
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  18. Vess1

    Vess1 CT SP VIP Supporter

    I think it has something to do with the frost of the field at a microscopic level that's causing shadows that aren't normally there on a real MS SLQ. I'm going to chalk it up to the fact that it being 24k probabaly has something to do with it (and why it's not typically used.) 24k is very soft and it's possible they got some undesirable movement elsewhere when the strike hit.

    I have a 2006 1/4 oz S.F. commem that's a MS-70, but it's also 90/10 composition and the fields are perfect. fwiw.
     
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  19. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    Evidently not as good as Elaine ' s Christmas cards!:)
     
  20. Dynoking

    Dynoking Well-Known Member

    Good point about 24k vs 90/10. This is my first 24k coin I have handled and viewed up close. My girlfriend has one coming in right behind this one. I wait to see hers before making a decision. Thanks for your thoughts.
     
  21. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    I hope this trend continues - I thought the dime execution was just stupidly poor, and this is somewhat better. I do like the obverse head just fine. The reverse field flow issues are a little disappointing, but 24K gold is GOING TO have different flow characteristics from 90% silver; you can't get away from it. The rubber will meet the road on the Walker. Yes, it too has to be undersized, but it will still be a biggish coin, and any faults will stare at you from those obverse fields especially. The digital hubbing may not be "prime time ready" yet to reproduce the classic designs done with reducing machines. Maybe we need "Digital Hubbing 2.0".
     
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