Where's All The Love For The 2016 Standing Liberty Quarter?

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  1. USS656

    USS656 Here to Learn Supporter

    How many times do we have to say - no politics!
     
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  3. chrisild

    chrisild Coin Collector

    We have been hearing this for almost twenty years. :rolleyes: And yes, at some point it may be replaced by something else, just as the pre-euro currencies were replaced by the euro. But let us leave politics out here ...

    Christian
     
  4. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    No, it's good advice for everybody, even me. Remember, ignore is the root word from which we get ignorANT.

    By the way, I don't CARE who my audience is. I say what I say because I know it to be true, not to be a resonance chamber for a particular audience.
     
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  5. Burton Strauss III

    Burton Strauss III Brother can you spare a trime? Supporter

    It's alright Kurt, you are an idiot, but you are OUR idiot.
     
  6. DUNK 2

    DUNK 2 Well-Known Member

    A pretentious answer to a question about pretentiousness.
     
  7. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    Funny that. For over 40 years now I've considered people who believe in "hard money" to be the idiots.
     
  8. Nathan401

    Nathan401 Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

    Wrong again, Mr V.
     
  9. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    Can we see your academic paper on the subject? Or are we just spewing? If you had been at the Chicago ANA show in 2011, you could have seen my research in my Numismatic Theater presentation I gave there. Yup, I went into "the belly of the beast" and challenged their beliefs "straight up in their grilles". In person. No Internet. Covered by Numi News and all. And UNLIKE the "hard money" speakers, I took ALL questions. Not like the "numismatic consultant" who refused to take any questions at Boston in 2010. Why? He was merely 'marketing" and I knew he was, and he knew I knew he was.

    BTW, ALL gold IRA's are a scam, but the "self-storage" ones are almost criminally so. The IRS has never approved even a single one.
     
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  10. DUNK 2

    DUNK 2 Well-Known Member

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  11. Michael Clarke

    Michael Clarke Well-Known Member

    Was my plan wrong? I was setup with 3 different accounts to try and get them. I work late and over slept by an hour thinking for sure I blew it. I got all 3 so should I send them to PCGS? Many many people got killed on those $600+ pre-orders. Disappointed about it not being quarter size but I understand the math and other problems with that.
     
  12. Truble

    Truble Well-Known Member

    Dan, evidently you don't get it, printing currency is a pure as white wind driven snow. No central bank has any evil nefarious intentions to devalue, defraud, or confiscate people's wealth through inflation. The meetings on Jekyll Island in November 1910 was just a peaceful secret duck-hunting expedition. No one should own anything such as gold or silver that actually has shown to have the ability to preserve a persons wealth. Just my experience though others may differ.
     
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  13. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    How's that whole wealth preservation thingy working fer ya since August 2011? Huh? Five whole years, pal. Maybe you need a new theory.
     
  14. Danjohnson

    Danjohnson Well-Known Member

    It's taken some willpower not to get drawn into another (Econ/pol) debate with Kurt.

    I just found this site and appreciate the wealth of coin experience, I don't want to offend anyone by overstepping my bounds... That said, I think Kurt would benefit from a round of Keynesian Deprogramming and Exit-Counseling. (lol)
     
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  15. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    Not a chance! I learned Keynesianism from a professor who was in turn taught by Keynes himself, personally.
     
  16. Burton Strauss III

    Burton Strauss III Brother can you spare a trime? Supporter

    Kurt, et al - why don't you take the politics to Omni and leave this for a discussion about the US Mint's 2016 Commemorative product...
     
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  17. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Get back on topic guys !
     
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  18. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    All kidding aside, I do genuinely hope the SLQ is rendered a bit more sharply than the Merc was. Why, if I'm not planning on getting one? Easy. Bad execution makes me worry about other pieces coming later down the road. If we become too accepting of poor workmanship, it'll only get worse. Even though I won't be buying a gold Walker, I like the series enough that I'd consider a poorly executed version a real insult to the designer's vision. We know the dime was "meh", and the quarter we'll soon know. But a "bad" Walker would upset me. I think we need more relief, more like the early year ASE Walker, and less like the more recent ones.
     
  19. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    Burton, I am truly glad you know where the line is between economics and politics. But I'm formally educated in one and work in the other, and I swear I have no idea where it is. And since coins ARE economics, that presents issues for me, as I've frequently discussed with both Doug and Jim.
     
  20. Cascade

    Cascade CAC Grader, Founding Member

    Any pics in hand yet guys? Does she have a nipple And FH?
     
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  21. Clawcoins

    Clawcoins Damaging Coins Daily

    Oh the vanity of it all

    Some ppl just like certain coins for their attributes and will pay the initial offering price. Since it is a *new* release we're paying the R&D, gold melt, manufacturing & packaging in order to be a "first" owner.

    Later on down the road, if all else remains equal the R&D, manufacturing and packaging costs drop off sooner or later .. ie, it's "used" like when a used car gets driven off the lot. Unless there is a higher than average demand in which case it may hold, or increase it's value.

    but time will tell. like any investment, or hobby depending upon how you define yours from one extreme to another.
     
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