I think I just found my first doubled die!

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by otis89, Sep 10, 2016.

  1. otis89

    otis89 Junior Member

    I think I just found my first doubled die, but I would like someone who's more knowledgeable about them to verify. It looks to me like it matches up with the Wexler DDO-003. Thoughts?

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  3. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    I like it. I wish there was some color to your scope!
     
  4. Markus1959

    Markus1959 Well-Known Member

    NOPE! You saw your 1st anomaly from a scope that the bright shadows just looks like a DD!
     
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  5. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    You sure? the wings for the top of the T. The 0 that looks like a donut, taken from a 30 degree sw angle? The Y?
     
  6. Markus1959

    Markus1959 Well-Known Member

    Yeah - I'm sure - seen this typ of thing under a scope from a "SHINY" copper plated zinc a million times!!
    If you move it around under your scope you can make it look like DD - I ALWAYS take an anomaly from a scope then look at it under a 20X loupe and it shows nothing!!
     
  7. Markus1959

    Markus1959 Well-Known Member

    AND - if you think you got DD - you actually have plating issues!!
     
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  8. otis89

    otis89 Junior Member

    I'm sorry, but I'm not buying that it's shadows. Shadows would be a different color and at a different height from the rest of the date and liberty. I have looked at plenty of coins under my scope, and this is the first time I've ever seen anything like my pictures. Would anyone else like to weigh in on this?
     
  9. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    You are the guy with the coin. I see outlines on the relief and the "0" looks fat so it's possible. However, buffing can produce the same effect so...is the coin original?

    Next. photograph it using florescent light in several orientations (tipped & rotated). That should allow us to be sure one way or the other. Don't get your hopes up. ;)
     
  10. otis89

    otis89 Junior Member

    Thanks. Any tips on lighting to produce the best picture?
     
  11. Seattlite86

    Seattlite86 Outspoken Member

    These always have me scratching my head. If I can't see it under my 10x loupe, to me it doesn't exist.
     
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  12. stldanceartist

    stldanceartist Minister of Silly Walks

    I would like to say that I am in the "I'd like to see some more images of the coin" camp. No, it's not a super obvious doubled die like the 1955 Lincoln Cent...but then few are.

    From the images provided, I feel like there is at least the possibility that this coin is a modern DD. Will it be much easier for the owner to see in hand? Yes. Will the owner spend a week taking images that actually show the doubling they see in hand, and still not have images good enough for us to see what they see? Ha ha...very possible. Been there, done that.

    But I'd like to see some more images.
     
  13. Michael K

    Michael K Well-Known Member

    I'm not seeing it. If there is doubling it is probably machine doubling. Most true doubled dies have blatant doubling on the letters and numbers that can be seen plainly with the naked eye.
     
  14. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    Machine doubling occurs on the SIDES of the relief, not the top.
     
  15. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    I'm sorry, Markus, but he has an excellent candidate here. That said, I too would like to see more (and better) photos, but I'd respectfully hesitate against being so quick to declare this one bunk.
     
  16. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    As with Markus, I am sorry but this is far from fact. Most of what are accepted as doubled dies cannot so easily be seen with the naked eye, nor do they display "blatant doubling", and is particularly true with coins from the single squeeze era. Truth is if they did, this area wouldn't be so confusing to those less familiar with it.
     
  17. Markus1959

    Markus1959 Well-Known Member

    That's possible - pics aren't good and all I really could see is that line on the "B"
     
  18. Markus1959

    Markus1959 Well-Known Member

    I agree with you!! I've seen certified DD's that if you didn't have at least 20X mag you would never tell!
     
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  19. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    Single squeeze is different and can often look like "mush" (lack of a better term) when compared to doubled dies of the past.

    You're certainly right about lighting though... I swear I've lost hair due to members, especially ones who should know better (no names), insisting on using those little scope things and failing to take this into consideration. ;)
     
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  20. otis89

    otis89 Junior Member

    I'll try to get some better pictures, but it may be a few days. These are just screen shots from my microscope. I don't really have a good camera or good lighting for taking pictures of coins.
     
  21. Markus1959

    Markus1959 Well-Known Member

    You really don't need a "good" camera as much of learning how to take pics through what you have. PLUS a good photo editing program!
     
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