Vespasian Nemesis denarius

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  1. Orfew

    Orfew Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus

    I have been looking for one of these for a year, ever since I first saw one. I think the condition is very nice and it has a very nice provenance.

    Please post your coins of Vespasian, coins with Nemesis, or any other related coins

    Vespasian, 69-79 A.D. AR Denarius, 3.16g. 19mm. Rome, 73 A.D.

    Obv: IMP CAES VESP AVG CENS. Laureate head of Vespasian to right. Rev: MAXIM PONTIF. Nemisis walking to right holding caduceus over snake. RIC 544.

    Fine old collection toning.

    Ex: E. E. Clain-Stefanelli collection. Ex: Ed Waddell

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  3. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Thats a beautiful Vespasian, love the portrait and toning. Congrats.
     
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  4. Carthago

    Carthago Does this look infected to you?

    Great coin, Orfew. Love the reverse type and that is a super provenance.
     
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  5. David Atherton

    David Atherton Flavian Fanatic

    That is a superb denarius! Much better than my example of the type. Congrats!
     
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  6. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    That's an absolutely fantastic example @Orfew !!! I'd LOVE to own it!!

    None of 'Nemesis' that I'm aware of ...but here are three denarii that I purchased of Vespasian this year:
    Vepasian priestly implements.jpg Vesoasian denarius-Ponmeriun.jpg Vespasian bust curule chair reverse.jpg
     
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  7. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    VERY cool reverse type!
     
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  8. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    Gorgeous coin, Orfew! One of those you could be happy looking at all day.

    I'll offer up a Hadrian with Victory (or is it Pax?), in the aspect of Nemesis, doing her drapery-pulling and spitting thing...

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  9. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Very nice @Orfew. I love both sides.
     
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  10. Aidan_()

    Aidan_() Numismatic Contributor

    Awesome coin Orfew!

    Wouldn't it say so on the reverse?
     
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  11. dougsmit

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  13. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

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  14. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    Let's remember that what was accepted as standard notation in one generation might be quite different in the next. The Hadrian is nearly a century after the Claudius. I doubt either generation looked at the legends as identifying the figure as much as we 2000 years later do. Neither Victory nor Pax spits down her dress. Now, find me a coin where Nemesis is identified in the legend.
     
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  15. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    My one and only Vespasian (humble, but kinda cute) ...

    vespasian JA photos.jpg


    Ummm, and does this baby check-off the Nemesis box?

    augustus ax.jpg augustus bx.jpg
     
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  16. ancientone

    ancientone Well-Known Member

    Extremely cool coin Orfew! I love the snake. I'm a little more familiar with the Nemesis or Nemeses on provincial coinage.

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    Aeolis, Temnos. Pseudo-autonomous Ae25. Senate/Nemeses
    Obv: IERACY NKLHTOC; Bust of youthful Senate r.
    Rev: THM NE ITWN; Two Nemeses standing facing each other, drawing fold of drapery from breasts.
    200-250 AD.
    25mm, 6.5g.
    SNG COP 21 266(1)

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    Ionia, Smyrna. Marcus Aurelius AE32. Alliance with Laodicea in Phrygia.
    Obv: AY K M AY ANTWNINOC, Bust of Marcus Aurelius r., laur., wearing cuirass and paludementum.
    Rev: ATTALOCCOFICTHCTAICPATPICI CMVP LAOD, Zeus Laodikeus holding eagle and scepter, Nemeses before him standing face to face.
    32mm., 20g.
    BMC 514
     
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  17. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    oh nice...sweet color, killer reverse!
     
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  18. Volodya

    Volodya Junior Member

    Extra credit for correct pluralization!
     
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  19. coin_nut

    coin_nut Well-Known Member

    My one and only Vespasian, thus far........has a bird on the reverse side.

    I often imagine some Roman legionnaire spending it in some tavern for drink and favors...
    69-79 Vespasian Denarius obv.jpg 69-79 Vespasian Denarius rev.jpg
     
  20. Orfew

    Orfew Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus

    Through a bit more research I was able to find another piece of the provenance for this coin. It was part of an NAC auction this past May. The revised attribution is below.

    I would love to find out where Mrs Clain-Stefanelli acquired the coin.

    Also, thanks to all for the kind words and contributions to this thread.



    Vespasian, 69-79 A.D. AR Denarius, 3.16g. 19mm. Rome, 73 A.D.

    Obv: IMP CAES VESP AVG CENS. Laureate head of Vespasian to right.

    Rev: MAXIM PONTIF. Nemesis walking to right holding caduceus over snake.

    C 385, RIC 544.

    Ex: E. E. Clain-Stefanelli collection. Ex: Numismatica Ars Classica - Auction 92 Part 2, Lot 2133 May 24, 2016; Ex: Ed waddell
     
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  21. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    Magnificent coin, Orfew. What a treasure!
     
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