1990 D washington Quarter clipped planchet

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by Matthew Peak, Sep 1, 2016.

  1. Matthew Peak

    Matthew Peak Member

    I bought this coin today and am anxious to hear opinions of those more experienced than I. I researched the error and how to tell if it is a legitimate mint error or a counterfeit error (not sure if thats the right terminology or not). Because the coins obverse and reverse is added after the round planchet is cut from a big sheet, when one is "clipped" the detail fades as it gets closer to the error because there is no metal for the design to adhere to. If close attention is paid to the rim and the "U" on the reverse, the fading detail is blatantly obvious to me. Please chime in with any input in regards to the coin or my understanding of this process. If I've got wrong.....let me know. Constructive criticism welcome! 20160901_125401.jpg 20160901_125421.jpg 20160901_125440.jpg 20160901_125838_HDR.jpg 20160901_125838_HDR.jpg 20160901_125453.jpg 20160901_125530.jpg 20160901_125520.jpg
     
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  3. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    Consider also the Blakesley Effect, which happens during the upsetting process where the rim on the far side of the clip fails to completely form because the clip gives the upsetting die nothing to "push against" to create it. It's plainly visible here. I have no doubt this is a genuine clip.
     
  4. Matthew Peak

    Matthew Peak Member

    Awesome! Good news for me. Thanks for not making fun of my "working hands", as I'm an electrician and they stay pretty beat up and dried out because Im addicted to washing them. Lol. Any idea what something like this is worth? I paid $2 for it.
     
  5. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    I would say it is a real clip. You can see some "fading" of the top of the U on the reverse as material flowed toward the empty area. Also there is what is known as the Blaksley effect that is seen at 180 degrees from the clip. Note the somewhat flattened rim of the obverse and the weakening of the tops of the I and C of the reverse.
     
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  6. Matthew Peak

    Matthew Peak Member

    Yes, I saw that and thought it was a rim ding. Is this effect the result of the clip? Or is it something else?
     
  7. Matthew Peak

    Matthew Peak Member

    Im sorry, I just re read your post and you answered my question.
     
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  8. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    As I understand it, it is the result of the clip since in the upsetting process where the rim is formed, there is insufficient pressure to do a good job. I am sure more people will chime in here. It is a pleasure to see a non-mutilated "error".
     
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  9. Seattlite86

    Seattlite86 Outspoken Member

    Some light reading on Blakesley effect: http://dniewcollectors.blogspot.com/2012/04/blakesley-effect-on-clip-error-coins.html

    Also, please never take a photo with you holding the coin on the obverse/reverse of it! It hurts my soul to see a coin handled so :p

    If you want to hold it that way, use some cotton gloves. They're relatively inexpensive and worth purchasing. I never hold a coin on anything but the edge of a coin.
     
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  10. Matthew Peak

    Matthew Peak Member

    Note taken. I tried really hard not to touch it on the surfaces. I kind of had it propped up between my fingers. Not squeezing it. A mistake none the less that wont happen again. Thanks
     
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  11. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    Many members here do tend to be anal retentive.
     
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  12. Smojo

    Smojo dreamliner

    New word for the day. Is that like anal resistant or just plain being anal?
     
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  13. Matthew Peak

    Matthew Peak Member

    Can anyone tell me the value of a coin like this? 2017 red book says $5 in the back for a single clip. Are these not that rare? Or just no demand? I doubt I would let it go anyway, but I like to be able to put a value on coins in my collection.
     
  14. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    Google is your friend.
     
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  15. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    To an error collector, $5 is not a bad guess, to someone who doesn't collect them, it is worth $0.25.
     
  16. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    If you want to take a photo of the edge of a coin, you can use a pair of self-locking, plastic tongs to stand the coin on its edge so both of your hands are free to hold the camera. They're only $2-3 at JP's Corner online.

    Fred Weinberg has a couple of quarter clips listed on his site. Keep in mind that condition is important.

    http://www.fredweinberg.com/product-category/error-types/clip/

    Chris
     
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  17. Seattlite86

    Seattlite86 Outspoken Member

    Oh, most certainly so, but a fingerprint on a coin could completely ruin the value of it.
     
  18. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    So could a scratch from crud on a dirty glove. Final word...BE CAREFUL
     
  19. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    I consider the risk of fingerprints more manageable than the chance of dropping a coin due to the loss of dexterity from gloves, and will not be caught dead wearing them unless outdoors in freezing weather.
     
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  20. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    YOU HANDLE COINS OUTSIDE IN FREEZING WEATHER!!!:nailbiting::nailbiting::nailbiting:
     
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