Jackie Robinson 1997-S Proof Commemorative

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by p91, Jul 4, 2007.

  1. p91

    p91 Senior Member

    Hey everybody. I have a question about a Jackie Robinson Commem I have bought not too long ago. 1997-S Proof $1 Jackie Robinson Commemorative for $64


    Over at pcgs.com it says that PR69= $130 , MS70= $5000
    The PR70 is worth more than most of the similar years commems... I wonder why? Do you think I should submit this coin to a grading service? How difficult is it to get MS70?

    PS. As far as mintage - it's really tough to seem to get accurate info... does anyone know? Heritage Auctions say:
    NGC Census: (537/62). PCGS Population (855/8). Mintage: 30,007.

    Another person says max mintage 100,000.

    could low mintage be a contributing factor to the high value of the MS70?

    Thanks for your help!
     
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  3. Aidan Work

    Aidan Work New Member

    P91,can you please post some photos?

    Aidan.
     
  4. gopher29

    gopher29 Coin Hoarder

    it's ridiculous that the MS70 should be valued that much more than the MS69. Only a expert can tell the difference between a MS69 and MS70 and he or she needs a magnifying lense to do so. I have several SAE in my collection graded MS69 and to my naked, untrained eye they appear absolutely perfect.
     
  5. AdamL

    AdamL Well-Known Member

    I have one of those myself, nice coins. But, I thought you said it was a proof??? A proof can't be graded ms-69, or ms-70. it would be pr-69, or pr-70.
     
  6. p91

    p91 Senior Member

    Sure Aiden, but the camera doesn't work so hot, so here goes:

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  7. p91

    p91 Senior Member

    Sorry - yeah I am new to collecting... so I meant PR70 ... and the original #'s were wrong - I just checked, PR70 is $5,000 , up from PR69= $130 ... !! must be tough to get a PR70?
     
  8. Aidan Work

    Aidan Work New Member

    P91,that's a very nice silver Proof $1 medal-coin you've got there.Here in New Zealand,we just use a basic 7 point grading system with Proof as being the top grade (even though Proof isn't really a grade as such).

    Aidan.
     
  9. p91

    p91 Senior Member

    I think I detect very faint irregularitys on the edge... a dent perhaps... that'd put PR70 out the window eh?
     
  10. p91

    p91 Senior Member

    Aiden I've never been to NZ but it looks like a beautiful place!! Also, we envy your 7 point system.

    Does anyone have any idea why this coin inparticular might jump from 130 to 5000 between PR69 & PR70?
     
  11. spock1k

    spock1k King of Hearts


    Its called demand and supply there a re a lot more 69 then 70's hence the diff in price. Also you cant be serious about the 7 point system as compared to the scheldon scale which is more scientific and advanced.
     
  12. p91

    p91 Senior Member

    advanced is good and the system has much benefit. cant deny the roots though and where they evolved from. makes for an exciting transition too when every coin isnt slabbed and sealed just yet
     
  13. Aidan Work

    Aidan Work New Member

    P91,the Sheldon 70 point system is just too confusing for us over here.In England,there is a crowd that has come up with a 100 point scale,which won't go down too well.

    Here's a link to the website of the British slabber; www.cgs-uk.biz .

    Aidan.
     
  14. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    Aiden:
    The British grader had a great idea with the 100 point system, its a shame that it didn't go over well.
     
  15. Aidan Work

    Aidan Work New Member

    Frank,the 100 point system is like the 70 point system.It can be summed up in these words - extremely confusing.

    Stick to the 7 point grading system,& you won't go wrong.

    Aidan.
     
  16. p91

    p91 Senior Member

    I found this from usmint.gov : The mintage of these beautiful coins has been limited: only 100,000 five-dollar gold coins will be struck, and only 200,000 silver-dollar coins will be struck - the lowest number of authorized silver coins in the modern commemorative era.

    but they dont mention anything about amount of proofs... one website said 30,000 is that right on a 200,000 coin run?
     
  17. ML94539

    ML94539 Senior Member

    1997-S Uncirculated30,1801997-S Proof110,002
     
  18. p91

    p91 Senior Member

    thanks ML94539! for some reason I thought the larger # would have been the uncirculated. I guess thats not always the case
     
  19. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member


    For what it is worth, I love that coin and would have been real grade to have gotten one from the mint.

    Ruben
     
  20. shortstack

    shortstack Senior Member

    The PCGS Pop you quoted is for MS. PCGS Population for the PR69/PR70 is 723/6 out of 904 graded. So the six people out there who own a PCGS PR70 want at least $5000 to separate them:hug: from their coin. With only 6 out of 904 grading at PR70 your chances of getting a PR70 grade are <1%:mad: .

    Just the numerical facts. I think the coin looks great in the Mint packaging :smile
     
  21. p91

    p91 Senior Member

    Thanks for those clarifications! yeah that is pretty amazing , 6 out of 904. thats not very many PR70's out there floatin around.
     
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