1978 Copper Washington Quarter

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Michele Bigness, Aug 31, 2016.

  1. Ericred

    Ericred Active Member

    I hope your right, I really do. Nice camera, great detail, I could use my loop
     
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  3. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    I have been metal detecting for years and also have been collecting error coins for 30 years. I have authenticated missing clad layer coins and I can tell you that your quarter is not an error. It's environmental damage due to long exposure to sand, dirt, soil... I have dozens that look as yours
     
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  4. cpm9ball

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    @Michele Bigness

    Listen to paddy!

    Chris
     
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  5. Neva! lol 20160831_175326.jpg 20160831_175555.jpg

    Chris...We will need to agree to disagree on this one.
     
  6. cpm9ball

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    So, then. What are your plans for this? I don't want to see you waste any money on it.

    Chris
     
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  7. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    Here is one important detail to consider. A missing clad layer coin usually occurs on only one side. That's why it's usually seen on either the obverse or reverse depending on how the blank planchet lands in the chamber when being struck. So for your coin to be a complete missing clad layer on both sides.. It is unlikely.
     
  8. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    And if it was missig both clad layers it would only weigh about 3 grams and much of the detail especially in the high relief areas and around the periphery, would be weak or missing. Rims would be weak as well.
     
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  9. Fullbands

    Fullbands Certified Authentic Details

    Your side by side photo shows two coins, the same thickness. One or both clad layers missing would be a much thinner coin.

    Rick L.
     
  10. I said it was copper, not missing clad layer
     
  11. my plan is to bring it to a coin expert and...buy a scale
     
  12. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    :banghead:
    I clearly see evidence of clad..underneath the environmental damage.
     
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  13. eric6794

    eric6794 Well-Known Member

    a quarter is 91.67% copper with 8.33% nickel. If the 8.33% nickel was eaten away by environment damage what is left?
     
  14. Gilbert

    Gilbert Part time collector Supporter

    The gouges appear to show a silvery colored metal. Doesn't look like copper to me. But keep up the faith, possibly you will prove many of us wrong.
     
  15. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    Well there's your answer.. What is left is a Post Strike Damaged Quarter aka Not an error.
     
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  16. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    By the way. I never said that Environmental Damage eats away at all coins. Yes it could happen such a beach detected Copper Zinc Cents where salwater eats away the copper layer and Zinc Deterioration occurs.
    But like I mentioned and as many others know Environmental Damage can cause the color of Nickel to be altered. Think of it as extreme toning after years of it buried.
     
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  17. cpm9ball

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    Can you tell us what coin was struck by the US Mint in 1978 that was composed of copper and was the same diameter as a quarter? It would have to be a planchet intended for another coin. That is the ONLY way you could have a copper quarter that wasn't missing both clad layers.

    Sorry, Michele, but you're wasting your time.

    Chris
     
  18. cpm9ball

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    The reeded edge is also clad. How did that happen if it was all copper?

    Chris
     
  19. If I'm understanding correctly....The majority opinion is ...environmental missing erosion clad from a coin buried beneath the ground then in the ocean created heavy damage on obverse side only ...and the reverse side is missing clad.

    I welcome all comments and opinions btw. ..even when seems determined to prove it IS NOT AN ERROR COIN. ;)

    We will see. I do not agree. I hv nvr seen a damage coin have extra numbers and double die according to Wexlers ...
     
  20. cpm9ball

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    You're leading her down the wrong path! If you're just guessing, you should say nothing.

    Chris
     
  21. You mean like the 70d quarter and Canadian 42? Why does it have to be same year or country? Plus...I nvr indicated this is the same. I'm only going on..that it is an error but not certain of what exactly.

    My time to waste. I know what I see is not anything I have seen in the thousands and thousands of coins looked at over the years. That's all
     
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