Late Roman bronzes don't get much better than this

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  1. Broucheion

    Broucheion Well-Known Member

    Hi All,

    My Alexandrian RIC VII, 58, officina A.

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    - Broucheion
     
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  3. Valentinian

    Valentinian Well-Known Member

    The portrait does not look much like Constantine I and could be Constantine II who, after Constantine's death, used the same obverse legend Constantine had used: CONSTANTINVS MAX AVG. Looking in RIC VIII (which begins with the death of Constantine) it could be RIC VIII Alexandria 13, page 539, "before April 340" (i.e. before the death of Constantine II). That has mintmark SMALA as does the above coin and its low weight (given as 1.68 grams) matches the RIC cited average of "1.67 grams." (RIC VII does not give weights the way RIC VIII does.)

    The above coin has rosette diadem as the Constantine I citation, and the number cited in RIC VIII does not (It is laureate). Nevertheless, I think it is really Constantine II and that minor variant is omitted. Many varieties are not in RIC.

    Constantine2GESisciaChiRho88189.jpg
    Here is a Constantine II with that obverse legend from Siscia. How do we know it is not Constantine I? Well, the similar types for Constantius II and Constans from that issue are not as Caesars, rather as Augusti, so it must be after Constantine died.
    RIC VIII Siscia 85. 17 mm. 1.85 grams.
     
    Last edited: Dec 16, 2020
  4. impcaeaug

    impcaeaug Member

    My favorite LRB that I own, a follis of Emperor Jovian from Heraclea Perinthus:
    3.Follis-JovianRICVIIIHeraclea108.jpg

    Jovian, 363 - 364 AD
    AE Follis, Heraclea Mint, 19mm, 2.66 grams
    Obverse: D N IOVIANVS P F AVG, Diademed, draped and cuirassed bust of Jovian left.
    Reverse: VOT V within laurel wreath, HERACB in exergue.
    RIC 108
     
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  5. Broucheion

    Broucheion Well-Known Member

    Hi @Valentinian,

    I appreciate the correction! My forte is in Ptolemaics but I collect everything else from Alexandria. I’m sure mistakes abound in my documentation. Thanks again.

    - Broucheion
     
    Last edited: Dec 17, 2020
  6. Helvetica

    Helvetica Member

    Seth - Re the first post in this thread: your Gratian is not RIC 45a but RIC 46a. All varieties of RIC 45 (a,b,c etc) have Roma's foot on a prow and her left leg bare. Your coin has a) no prow and b) her right leg is bare. So it is 46a
     
  7. expat

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    A very interesting thread that I have just become aware of. LRB coinage is not my collecting focus, but I have accumulated a few, here is an example
    Valens AE3.jpg
     
  8. Curtis

    Curtis Well-Known Member

    Nice example of the "Emperor dragging captive type." That's one of the ones I collect for my "barbarians, captives, and enemies" collection.

    I have some others, but here's a representative mix of rulers and mints (I think I may still need to add an Arcadius...):

    Valentinian, from Siscia:
    Valentinian Siscia Captive AE3.png

    From Rome, with the Officina no. spelled out (SECVNDA):
    Valentinian Captive SECVNDA.jpg

    Theodosius from Aquileia -
    Theodosius Captive Aquileia RIC 45b.png

    Gratian Siscia (I think this was one of the first coins I cleaned myself, over 20 years ago)
    Gratian GLORIA ROMANORVM Captive.jpg

    Valens - Siscia (another one I (mostly!) cleaned)
    Valens AE3 ASISC ED 2.jpg

    Valens - Barbarous Imitation (?). Possibly my favorite. (I particularly like barbarous imitations of "barbarian" coins.) This is supposedly a real type in RIC, based on one specimen, but never photographed. I wonder if that one could be a "barb" too?
    Valens Captive Crosses RIC 41b-7.png
     
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