Titus Lugdunum Dupondius as Caesar

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  1. Homer2

    Homer2 Well-Known Member

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    This is one of the first group of coins I bought a couple years ago when I first took the plunge into ancients and Roman coins in particular. Was visiting MGM in Munich and dove in deep. I had sort of forgotten about this one as I was looking at Titus coins recently online, and have just visited the Flavian Amphitheater in Rome a couple weeks ago. Wonder what would have happened if he had the same reign as Domitian.

    Titus AD 79-81
    Lugdunum Dupondius (as Caesar) 77-78
    Æ 27mm., 13,11g.
    Obv. T CAES IMP AVG F TR P COS VI CENSOR, laureate head right
    Rev. Roma seated left on cuirass, holding wreath and resting left elbow on a parazonium placed horizontally on three shields. S-C across fields, ROMA in exergue
    RIC 1263, S. 146, Paris 866

    Your favorite Flavian?
     
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  3. Victor_Clark

    Victor_Clark all my best friends are dead Romans Dealer

    Constantine I :happy:

    You can see on this coin his name was FLavius VALerius CONSTANTINVS, Members of Constantine's family started using the name Flavius in homage to the Flavian dynasty.

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    Constantine I
    A.D. 307
    26mm 6.9g
    FL VAL CONSTANTINVS NOB C; laureate and cuirassed bust right.
    PRINCIPI IVVENTVTIS; Prince, in military dress, holding standard in each hand; S-A across fields.
    In ex. PTR
    RIC VI Trier 734
     
  4. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    For the provenance alone:
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    VESPASIAN
    Æ Dupondius
    OBVERSE: IMP CAES VESP AVG P M T P COS V CENS, radiate head left
    REVERSE: FELICITAS PVBLICA S-C, Felicitas standing facing, head left, holding caduceus & cornucopiae
    Struck at Rome, 74AD
    10.2g, 28mm
    RIC 716, (RIC [1962] 555), Cohen 152, BMC 698
    Ex: J.Q. Adams

    lot 785 of the John Quincy Adams sale (Stacks, 1971) purchased by Christian Blom. Chris sold it to Mendel Peterson of the Smithsonian Institution (it comes with his tag) who sold it to Gene Brandenburg, Trojan Antiques.
     
  5. expat

    expat Remember you are unique, just like everyone else Supporter

    My current fav Flavian is this Vespasian
    Vespasian Denarius, RIC 360, (RIC [1962] 50), RSC 574, BMC 71 SEAR 2316
    IMP CAES VESP AVG P M COS IIII, laureate head right / VES-TA to either side of Vesta standing left, holding simpulum & scepter.
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  6. David Atherton

    David Atherton Flavian Fanatic

    Nice example of the type and not easy to find in trade! Here's mine.


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    Titus as Caesar [Vespasian]
    Æ Dupondius, 12.42g
    Lyon mint, 77-78 AD
    Obv: T CAES IMP AVG F TR P COS VI CENSOR; Head of Titus, laureate, bearded, r.; globe at point of bust
    Rev: ROMA in exergue; S C in field; Roma std. l. on cuirass, with wreath and parazonium; behind, shields
    RIC 1263 (R). BMC -. BNC 866.
    Acquired from Civitas Galleries, August 2022.

    As for my favourite Flavian? Most definitely this 'Colosseum' sestertius.

     
  7. philologus_1

    philologus_1 Supporter! Supporter

    OOOH! A Flavian party! :) I have many Flavians which I am very partial toward, si t's hard to choose my "Fave Flave", but right now I'm feeling strongest attachment to this one:
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    Vespasian, Emperor, AD 69-79. "JUDAEA CAPTA" commemorative series. Æ Orichalcum Sestertius. Struck in Rome, AD 71. Obv.: IMP CAES VESPASIAN AVG PM TR P P P COS III. Laureate head, right. Rev.: IVDEA CAPTA, SC ex.; palm tree, mourning Jewess sitting to the right, male captive standing left, behind him a pile of weapons, shields and helmet. Diameter: 34.4 mm. Weight: 26.3 grams. Attrib.: RIC II, part 1, 161 (R2). BMC 534. Hendin 1500.b.
    Notes: Full centering, complete legend. Many examples (if not most examples) of these types have been noticeably smoothed or tooled. On this exemplar the obverse has had only slight smoothing behind the head and in front of the nose and chin area, while the reverse is original with no smoothing/tooling. [Purchased from FORVM; ex-Jeff Michniak collection.]

    BTW: Should we invite the famous "Flavor Fave" to post here a Fave Flave? ;-) Here he is... radiate, wearing gold necklace...
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  8. Homer2

    Homer2 Well-Known Member

    Yeah boyeee!

    Here's my favorite Flavian Denarius. Very sharp details on this, especially on Minerva.

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    Domitian; 81-96 AD, Rome, 88 AD,
    Denarius, 3.07g. RIC-553 (or is it RIC II 106var), Cohen 66var, BMC 114var
    Obv: IMP CAES DOMIT AVG GERM P M TR P VII Head laureate r.
    Rev: COS - XIIII across field, Minerva on rostral column fighting r., with owl before her legs.
    *Rare with short reverse legend placed horizontally across field with luster. (?)

    Not totally sure on the citations on this one. I am not exactly sure where I picked this one up, but I think locally from one of the münzen dealers.
     
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  9. Curtis

    Curtis Well-Known Member

    Very nice provenance indeed! I would have trouble deciding between that and the Dupondius below...

    This is my newest Flavian and definitely my favorite Vespasian Dupondius. (Possibly my favorite Roman Imperial "provenance coin.")

    Henry Platt Hall --> JSW (J.S. Wagner) --> Curtis Clay Collections & RIC II.1 "Plate Coin," from Plaster Cast at Ashmolean Museum, Oxford

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    Vespasian Æ Dupondius (27mm, 13.45 g, 6h), Rome mint, 71 CE.
    Obv: IMP CAES VESPASIAN AVG COS III. Radiate head right.
    Rev: CONCOR AVG S C. Concordia seated left, sacrificing from patera over altar and holding cornucopiae.
    Ref: RIC II.1 (2nd Ed.) 263 (this coin ill. from plater cast at Oxford); also the Wildwinds "plate coin" (for RIC 263).
    Prov: HJB BBS 225 (30 Nov 2023), 23 [acq. 2 Oct 2023], Curtis Clay Collection, with his tray tags; CNG EA 169 (25 Jul 2007), 203, J.S. Wagner Collection, w/ tray tag; Glendining "Catalogue of the important collection..." (16 Nov 1950), Lot 1198 (part), Henry Platt Hall (1863-1949) Collection, part II (HJB: "whence plaster cast in Oxford; illustrated in RIC from that cast").

    Hard to tell from photo but attractive, glossy surfaces:

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    Honorable mention to this Vespasian Denarius (ex Archer Huntington [1870-1955], ex ANS & HSA Collection(s), with their old museum tag):
    https://www.cointalk.com/threads/vespasian-with-vesta-reverse.410272/#post-24928807
     
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  10. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    I just love a tidy paper trail like your coin @Curtis.
     
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