old coin from haiti and chinese coin? silver?

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  1. cc51

    cc51 Senior Member

    I Just Came Back From Haiti And It Was Beautifull Over There.. When I Was Over There I Picked Up A 1907 Haiti Gourde And Two Ther Coins?
    Any Info About Any Of These Coins Espically The One With The Dragon Would Be Great
    Bob
     

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  3. marksman01

    marksman01 Senior Member

    hmmm not sure on all of them. but the one with the dragon on it, i have one exactly like it. i believe it is some kind of horrible counterfeit. not really sure, but thats what i think it is. hmmmmm i dont even remember where i got that "coin". =/




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  4. Drusus

    Drusus Pecunia non olet

    Hard to say with the 1907 without seeing the reverse...1907 saw a 50 centimes (.50 gourdes) and a 20 centimes with that exact obverse...both are President Nord Alexis. Either way, it isnt worth anything in that condition.

    Far Right is a coin from Turks and Caicos Island (west indies at the eastern end of the Bahama Islands)

    One Crown Copper / Nickel with the national arms...mintage 50,000 KM#1 worth maybe 2 USD

    The coin with the dragon (upside down) is China KWang Tung Province Y #198 Dollar - 7 Mace 3 Candareens 27.4000 g., 0.9000 Silver .7929 oz. ASW Obv: 7 Mace and 3 Candareens Obv. Kuang-hsu yuan-pao / Dragon Date 1889

    Values: F - 1,250 USD VF - 1,750 USD XF - 2,500 USD UNC - 4,800

    Proof - 10,000 USD

    wont comment on the authenticity :)
     
  5. gxseries

    gxseries Coin Collector

    The Chinese coin unfortuately is an obvious counterfeit.
     
  6. cc51

    cc51 Senior Member



    the 1907 is a 50 centime i know its not in the best of condition but its preatty good for 100 years old lol also what is the compisition of the one crown copper nickel coin>> 25/75???
     
  7. JeromeLS

    JeromeLS Coin Fanatic

    1907 is in poor condition-worthless. Kwang-tung dollar looks spurious (the obverse dragon is too crude). Crown is an OK XF. Probably about $2.
     
  8. Aidan Work

    Aidan Work New Member

    The Turks & Caicos Islands 1 Crown is actually a scarce coin - with a mintage of 50,000 coins.Fortunately,I picked one up late last year.All the Turks & Caicos Islands coins are medal-coins,as they're not issued for circulation.We can safely say that they are like the British West Indies equivilant of the Tokelau Islands Tala,which are also entirely a medal-coin issue.

    Pity about that extremely worn silver 1 Gourde from Haiti.The Chinese piece looks like a dud,because of the soapy colour.

    Aidan.
     
  9. cc51

    cc51 Senior Member



    so the one crown coin is not ment for circ. and the coin from haiti is silver!?
     
  10. Drusus

    Drusus Pecunia non olet

    no, its copper/nickel
     
  11. Aidan Work

    Aidan Work New Member

    Drusus,the Haitian 1907 coin is actually a cupro-nickel 20 Centimes.Cc51,there wasn't a silver 1 Gourde struck in 1907.

    The Turks & Caicos Islands 1 Crown is definitely a medal-coin.The U.S. Dollar is in circulation in the Turks & Caicos Islands,just like it is in the British Virgin Islands.

    Aidan.
     
  12. Dumanyu

    Dumanyu World Coin Collector

    I picked up this Haiti coin a couple weeks back. Strange it's the only one I've ever found.
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  13. Drusus

    Drusus Pecunia non olet

    Haite Republic Decimal coinage 1886 1 centime (100 centimes = 1 gourde by the way) KM#48 Bronze mintage 2,500,000 ... in that condition worth less than a buck :)
     
  14. Aidan Work

    Aidan Work New Member

    The 19th. Century Haitian coins also use a French-style dating system.An 1 is the year 1804,so An 83 is year 1883,as you have to take off 1 to convert it.

    Fred,that 1883A 1 Centime is a very seldom seen coin.

    Aidan.
     
  15. Drusus

    Drusus Pecunia non olet

    The coin was minted in Paris in 1886...the 83 is a secondary dating system (revolutionary system) used by Haiti that counts from 1803 when the french were permanently ousted from power after a native revolt...thus this coin was minted 83 years after haiti became independant...it is not a french dating system and does not stand for 1883...it stands for 83 years after 1803...

    It is an 1886a 1 centime
     
  16. Aidan Work

    Aidan Work New Member

    Drusus,the Haitian Revolutionary calendar is similar to the French Republican calendar to a certain degree.

    As for the French inscription on Haitian coins,French is actually a minority language.Less than 2% of the Haitian people understand French.They do have their own language.

    Here's an article; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haitian_Creole_language .

    Aidan.
     
  17. Drusus

    Drusus Pecunia non olet

    all the same...it would not be 1883...just 83 AN...or 1886 AD.

    Haiti is a former French Colony and the first nation to be founded by ex slaves. French is the language of state thus it is on the coins. Creole as it is spoken in Haiti is largely based on French with some African dialect thrown in and is a form of French Creole...I know this only because my fathers family comes from Haiti and I am originally from Louisiana where french creole is spoken as well.
     
  18. Aidan Work

    Aidan Work New Member

    Drusus,Haiti is also the second oldest independent country in the Americas as well after the U.S.

    Do you speak Haitian Creole as well as Cajun French?

    I can guess that Haitian coins are of interest to you,& that you collect them.

    Aidan.
     
  19. Drusus

    Drusus Pecunia non olet

    MY great grandfather on my fathers side moved from haiti to Louisiana some time after the rebellion that caused the US to invade and occupy Haiti. I dont speak Creole.
     
  20. jwevansv

    jwevansv Senior Member

    Here is my Haitian coin.
     

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  21. cc51

    cc51 Senior Member


    it beats mine lol
    did you find thta in circ?
     
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