GtGx2- Morgan Dollars

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  1. heavycam.monstervam

    heavycam.monstervam Outlaw Trucker & Coin Hillbilly

    Here we have 1902o & 1888p Morgans-
    Bonus pts 4 vam attribution:woot:
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  3. Paul M.

    Paul M. Well-Known Member

    1902-O AU58
    1888 MS64

    No idea on VAM just yet. :)
     
  4. Christopher290

    Christopher290 Active Member

    what is VAM if you don't mind me asking?
     
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  5. Paul M.

    Paul M. Well-Known Member

    VAM is what a variety designation for Morgan or Peace dollars is called. It's after the book on these coins written by Van Allen and Mallis. See http://www.vamworld.com/VAM
     
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  6. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    When coins are minted there's a obverse die and a reverse die. Each die has its own finger print so to speak. When collectors talk about Vams or die marriages what they are doing is matching up the two dies that minted the coin.
    Since die's do wear out and break sometimes different dies were used. So when you're looking for a vam or die marriage you're trying to use certain pick up points so you can ID the two dies used to mint a certain coin.
    If you're interested Google vam world. Lot's of good information as well as pictures .
     
  7. Christopher290

    Christopher290 Active Member

    wow.. thanks!
     
  8. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    Au 55 and ms 64
     
  9. NorthKorea

    NorthKorea Dealer Member is a made up title...

    Given all the resources (and the fact that you can have a member VAM designate for $6) available for VAMs, why not attribute your guess (take all the effort of staring at screens and comparing on yourself), then ask the forum their opinions on your accuracy? Grades, I'd say AU 53 and MS details or MS 62, depending on how much the huge divots look like scratches or bagmarks.
     
  10. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

  11. heavycam.monstervam

    heavycam.monstervam Outlaw Trucker & Coin Hillbilly

    Well, @Cascade , here's your big chance....:p:D:cool::smuggrin::smug::)
    You've seen enough of my sorry images to get these right, right??
     
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  13. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    With the frost on the back of the 1902O
    I'd say,
    MS 62
    Ms 64
     
  14. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    He triple dog dared you! Wow
     
  15. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    (1902-O): MS 64 ...in my opinion, this looks like one of those cases where the obverse is better than the reverse and carries the grade

    (1888): MS 63
     
  16. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    Well you could summons the one the only..... images.png
     
  17. talkcoin

    talkcoin Well-Known Member

    ms64 maybe a plus (mushy strike or else GEM)
    ms65
     
  18. Cascade

    Cascade CAC Grader, Founding Member

    64 each due to strike alone by today's standards. Plus there's too much chatter on the cheek of the 02o for 65 anyway. The 88p looks to be old anacs maybe so a 65 label is possible. Too tired to vam right now plus with those dates it could be tuff with those pics
     
  19. thejaxcollector

    thejaxcollector Active Member

  20. Evan8

    Evan8 A Little Off Center

  21. Andrew HK-coins

    Andrew HK-coins Make your own luck.

    MS 62 for the 1902 O

    MS 63 for the 1888, not sure of the VAM's. This is what I have been studying! :)
     
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