1812/1 Capped Bust Half - Large 8? Need assistance before attempting restoration

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  1. Brett_in_Sacto

    Brett_in_Sacto Well-Known Member

    20160821_095326.jpg 20160821_095402.jpg 20160821_095344.jpg I'm having a tough time, so I'm asking for a second (third, fourth, etc) set of eyes.

    I'm looking at the PCGS site on the 1812/1 "Large 8" and the reference point I'm using for the 8 is the lower part of the number in relation to the others - which seems to be the best "tell" using a standard loupe.

    The "Large 8" bottom is well below the 1's on each side.

    http://images.pcgs.com/CoinFacts/6102_37656050_2200.jpg
     
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  3. beef1020

    beef1020 Junior Member

    I don't have a comment on the variety, but I like that coin as is and would not attempt to remove any of the toning.
     
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  4. NSP

    NSP Well-Known Member

    It appears to be O-105, which is an R.1 variety. I wouldn't try to restore it in any way because that toning is really even and attractive. A beautiful coin indeed!

    Edit: here's the link to NGC's example of the variety. https://www.ngccoin.com/coin-variet...lar-die-varieties-part-i/1812-50c-o-105-2532/

    I matched it up by noticing the notch on the outward facing point of star #13 on the obverse and comparing where letters were in relation to the scroll on the reverse.
     
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  5. Seattlite86

    Seattlite86 Outspoken Member

    I agree, this coin does not appear to need any conservation, but that's just my opinion.
     
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  6. Paul M.

    Paul M. Well-Known Member

    Based on the image you linked, I would say it's definitely the large 8. I also don't see what kind of restoration you think this coin needs.
     
  7. Coinlover67

    Coinlover67 Well-Known Member

    I have no idea on the variety, but I would say leave it as is. When I first looked at it I liked the almost DCAM color it has.

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  8. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes?

    What are you attempting to "restore" on this coin? The coin looks attractive, original, and problem free. There is nothing that needs "restoration" here - and anything you do to it will leave a tampered with, less appealing coin.
     
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  9. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Lemme ask ya Brett - WHY do ya want to try and restore it ? What's your thinking on this ?
     
  10. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    Another one on - don't do anything to the coin. It is just fine the way it is.
     
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  11. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    Beautiful coin...love the cameo look. If you must do anything, limit it to a hot running water rinse/distilled water rinse and blot dry, put it in a snap holder and leave it alone!
     
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  12. Santinidollar

    Santinidollar Supporter! Supporter

    Brett, I think you may be underestimating how nice that coin is. Let her be!
     
  13. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank


    To quote the Beatles!
     
  14. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Everybody's got an opinion on whether the coin "should be" restored or not. But that doesn't matter because there is no right or wrong answer.

    I'm just curious as to why Brett is considering it ? So far he has not answered the question.
     
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  15. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    I agree with the attribution and to leave the coin as is. However, the notch on the star is commonly seen on many dates of these coins and is not of any use when trying to attribute these coins. :bookworm:
     
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  16. okbustchaser

    okbustchaser I may be old but I still appreciate a pretty bust Supporter

    Your coin is, indeed, a "large 8". (Actually, all 1812s--with the exception of the 12/1 "small 8" have large 8s.) It not the 12/1 large 8, though--simply a standard date 1812.

    For comparison purposes here is the 12/1 large 8.
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