Carbon or sulfur? Black spots on BU ROLLS

Hi guys.. same exact problem.. whem coins are in the roll they look amazing.. the second I take it out to put it in its own capsule then pvc free flip to get them graded they get a ton of spots on them.. going to lose myone don't know what to do. Lost so much money already. I have so many BU rolls from 1930 to 1974.. please help.. thank you in advance. Here are some pics.. when light is hitting the coin directly they look perfectly fine. When I block the light leaning over it.. this is what you see. And mind you guys this happens within 1-2 seconds of exposure.

 

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Have had this happen to me before, but i am going to let the experts answer this one!

 

This shouldn't happen in 1-2 seconds. I suspect the spots developed over time in the roll.

 

Try a little Verdicare. I've used it on similar spots, not same as yours. But it wouldnt hurt.

 

Good idea. OP, if you do this, remember not to rub the coin; you'll probably cause hairlines.

 

In my experience, this type of spotting cannot be removed. It's VERY common with BU cent rolls.

 

It's not possible for the spots to happen in 1 or 2 seconds. They already have the spots and prints when you remove them from the rolls.

 

Will Verdicare remove luster ?

 

Well from what I've been told @BadThad up there is who invented it. He would know. I've used it on ancients and a few IHC & copper cents with suprisingly good luck. But as I said haven't had the use for it on spots as the OP have there.
No problems with luster so no.

 

Would it be crazy to keep them submerged under Verdicare while taking the roll apart?

If there has been a chemical reaction on the face of the coin that was starved of oxygen, and breaking the roll provides access to oxygen and lets the reaction complete, then breaking them out under the Verdicare could coat the raw surface before oxygen reaches it.

If this works, my commission is quite reasonable.

 

I've put a coin in a small rx bottle with a few drops let soak for a few days. Get best results that way. Your question about a whole roll I think would be a little expensive. Maybe

 

Not if it saves them from total loss...

And maybe this is a case where the verdicare could be used again? You do need enough volume to submerge them, but only a tiny amount remains on the coin.

Since I can only speculate, maybe my idea has no merit. But I were set up to do so, I'd love to try it.

 

This did not happen in 2 seconds. VC will not conserve them; however, it will protect what's left and have no effect on the luster.

Go through all the rolls and separate any coins that are not spotted. Otherwise, don't open any more and SELL THEM as original rolls. Who knows what's inside them. Someone may end up with a roll of 65's.

I stopped collecting BU Red copper forty years ago. Original red coins will have a great chance of going up in price as this happens to so many rolls that were put away in the past.

 

Where were you storing these rolls, @Enis Aygul?

 

Yes, it would...this type of carbon spotting does NOT happen instantly. It's most likely been there since the coins were minted. I've opened enough BU rolls to know exactly what I'm seeing here.

 

Every roll is a new adventure. You just never know what the coins are going to look like.

 

Oh well, on to the next brilliant suggestion.

 

Thats the fun in coin roll hunting

 

should I shoot a video doing it? you'll see it in real life truly.. Okay if I exaggerated let's say within a minute. I put the corn on individual job so very quickly I go on and do other things I come back I see it ruined. fans running, Central AC, dehumidifier ,silica packs all over. so I'm doing my best to keep the humidity as low as possible. And let's say because of the way they were stored in the past... I have bought these rolls from numerous people. Did they all store them terribly wrong? I mean I have a lot of them that I bought within the last month or two.
I have not been holding on to them for decades. I have them in professional coin holders. boxes made by pcgs.

 

expensive is okay beyond this point .. ship is sinking already. I'm either going to seal the whole and keep on floating or go down with it may be the second I take it out I can apply it and see what happens..
thank you so much everyone for your help.. you don't know how much I appreciate this.. it's 4:34 am I'm still up because I'm so frustrated.. need to figure this out. asap.