I877 25c ICG-MS62 Considering removing from holder?

Discussion in 'What's it Worth' started by Michael Clarke, Aug 20, 2016.

  1. Michael Clarke

    Michael Clarke Well-Known Member

    Has it been cleaned? I was thinking of removing it from holder and sending to PCGS.
    Line off the right arm is not a scratch but can't tell if it's on holder or coin. I think it's on the coin. In-hand the coin looks kind of inbetween the slab pic and the others. 1877-obverse02.jpg 1877 IGC dateclose.jpg 1877 IGC slab.jpg 1877-headclose.jpg 1877-obverse01.jpg 1877-reverse.jpg
     
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  3. Omegaraptor

    Omegaraptor Gobrecht/Longacre Enthusiast

    Probably dipped one too many times.
     
  4. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    Agreed there's plenty meat on the bone but lacks luster thinking it be detailed
     
  5. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    It could easily come back in an AU slab.

    Chris
     
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  6. bigjpst

    bigjpst Well-Known Member

    I think this is the likely outcome. AU details cleaned. Liberty's hair arm and leg all look like they could have rub. A lot of seated coins with slight rub like this will make it into 62 holders, even at PCGS, but usually only when they have original toning.
     
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  7. Michael Clarke

    Michael Clarke Well-Known Member

    I removed it from holder and took better pics. Should I try rubbing it to remove that liquid residue type streak by the arm? What's the smart move PCGS or NGC?
    Thanks guys 1877 inhand-small.jpg 1877 clearO-small-part.jpg a1877 clearO.JPG a1877 clearR.JPG
     

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  8. Paul M.

    Paul M. Well-Known Member

    Never rub the coin! That's a great way to cause hairlines. Also, always handle coins by their edges.

    I would try soaking in various solvents (start with distilled water, then move on to acetone and then xylene if there are no results). For the water soak, pat dry with a lint-free cloth (but do not rub!); for acetone and xylene, they are fairly volatile and will evaporate quickly, so there is no need to pat dry.

    Also, I see some cool clash marks. :)
     
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  9. tommyc03

    tommyc03 Senior Member

    As Paul said, I also see clashing. You might want to research this if you do send out to get it attributed correctly.
     
  10. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    IMO, That is a stain on the obverse. I would not touch it.
     
  11. Paul M.

    Paul M. Well-Known Member

    You are probably right, but the measures I suggested are so conservative that, provided there's no rubbing of the coin, they literally can't cause any damage. In other words, why not try? While I wouldn't have broken the coin out of the holder, at this point, there's nothing to lose.
     
  12. Michael Clarke

    Michael Clarke Well-Known Member

    I removed it from the holder and tried a little distilled water to no effect. At higher magnification looks like it's in the metal to me. Is that a Die clash on the right if so what's that mean? -1877-line.jpg -1877-rightside.jpg
     

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  13. Insider

    Insider Talent on loan from...

    IMHO, You made a BIG mistake removing it from its holder. The coin is corroded. Don't think it will ever be straight graded anywhere! If it does, it will be net graded to AU or the TPGS will think it is a "struck-thru" error. :facepalm:

    Yes, a die clash. And it means you have a point of interest on the coin.
     
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  14. tommyc03

    tommyc03 Senior Member

    Now out of the holder I see more clashing. I think more damage was done by holding the coin in hand then breaking it out as it was in an ICG holder. It would be interesting to find out if this particular clash has yet been reported. If not then there is some claim to fame here for a possible new find but as Insider said, it will not likely straight grade again either. But for specialist who collect clashes it may be worth more and make up the difference as to the way it was original graded. Might break even so to speak. JMHO.
     
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